This is ridiculous, it should be the opposite. Like school teachers IMO, they should pay them more, spend more on training and have more phycological testing so you get more of the best and brightest in the positions. The importance of what teachers and cops do is undervalued in our society, there should be extremely extensive training and very good pay and we might avoid these situations.
2020 Democrats: Defund The Police.
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I don't advocate getting rid of the police. I think this is another case of the media/twittersphere exploding the purpose and losing sight of the actual goal. Reform.
Waste isn't the concern with police as much as corruption. It stands without me leaving thousands of references to police shooting reports, numerous videos of people of all races being brutalized in the last 20 years, and numerous examples of civil forfeiture to justify the change has to happen there. I'm white and I grew up in a rough neighborhood. I would regularly get harassed by police. I can think of several instances where if I didn't immediately shout my intentions (I'm just walking to the store!) to a police officer I probably would've had guns drawn on me. The police in their current form are a menace. They are supposed to serve us. We should be working cooperatively with them. However, doing so is impossible when a simple traffic ticket might be the last thing you see before you're lit up for reaching for your wallet. Reform is absolutely necessary and it starts with police who are willing to cross the blue line. Something I wish would have happened during the riots was riot police arresting themselves for brutalizing journalists and non-combatant protesters. That never happened. Of the videos I've seen so far the only people respecting protesters are the national guard. The military has MPs for the purpose of bringing unlawful soldiers to justice. We should have police-police in the same function as well.
Why not both? The police won't fix themselves. Vote for politicians who advocate for accountability in police and politics. The problem are these "power positions" feed themselves. You'll never find someone standing against the police because the unions spend so much money lobbying.
I think a few asshats are throwing around defund the police and FOX NEWS is claiming that the entire DNC is running on a platform of defunding the police...
I knew this would happen.
Yo Mary, other than that howz your day going?
Howz that defund the police movement and that Soros prosecutor in Philly workin' out for ya?
U.S. Rep. Mary Gay Scanlon carjacked and robbed in South Philly after touring FDR Park
“She’s physically OK, but her vehicle and possessions are gone," the representative's spokesperson told the Inquirer.
District Attorney Larry Krasner, who has faced mounting public pressure over gun violence, said his office would extend victim support services to Scanlon and her aides.
https://www.inquirer.com/crime/mary-gay-scanlon-carjacking-robbery-fdr-park-20211222.html
Howz that defund the police movement and that Soros prosecutor in Philly workin' out for ya?
U.S. Rep. Mary Gay Scanlon carjacked and robbed in South Philly after touring FDR Park
“She’s physically OK, but her vehicle and possessions are gone," the representative's spokesperson told the Inquirer.
District Attorney Larry Krasner, who has faced mounting public pressure over gun violence, said his office would extend victim support services to Scanlon and her aides.
https://www.inquirer.com/crime/mary-gay-scanlon-carjacking-robbery-fdr-park-20211222.html
The Predictable Consequences of ‘Defund the Police’
After a weekend in which three people were killed in Oakland, Calif., including a 1-year-old hit by a stray bullet while sleeping in the back seat of his mother’s car, Mayor Libby Schaaf finally reversed herself on defunding the police and pledged to hire more cops. But what took her so long? Murder rose by nearly 30% last year, and Americans have been making it as clear as can be that they want more and better policing. The incoming mayors of Atlanta, New York and Seattle ran campaigns that prioritized public safety. A ballot initiative in Minneapolis that would have dismantled the police department was defeated soundly, and some of the strongest opposition came from low-income black communities. “Black lives need to be valued not just when unjustly taken by the police, but when we are alive and demanding our right to be heard, to breathe, to live in safe neighborhoods and to enjoy the full benefits of our status as American citizens,” explained a civil-rights activist from Minneapolis in a New York Times op-ed.
After a weekend in which three people were killed in Oakland, Calif., including a 1-year-old hit by a stray bullet while sleeping in the back seat of his mother’s car, Mayor Libby Schaaf finally reversed herself on defunding the police and pledged to hire more cops. But what took her so long? Murder rose by nearly 30% last year, and Americans have been making it as clear as can be that they want more and better policing. The incoming mayors of Atlanta, New York and Seattle ran campaigns that prioritized public safety. A ballot initiative in Minneapolis that would have dismantled the police department was defeated soundly, and some of the strongest opposition came from low-income black communities. “Black lives need to be valued not just when unjustly taken by the police, but when we are alive and demanding our right to be heard, to breathe, to live in safe neighborhoods and to enjoy the full benefits of our status as American citizens,” explained a civil-rights activist from Minneapolis in a New York Times op-ed.
FBI Statistics Show a 30% Increase in Murder in 2020. More Evidence That Defunding Police Wasn’t a Good Idea.
Cassell’s research shows a strong connection between de-policing and anti-police rhetoric driving surges in shootings. The 2020 numbers strongly back that up.
Departments moved away from proactive policing, and now struggle to clamp down on violent crime as police officers leave the force and are not replaced.
Many of the cities that defunded their police departments in 2020—like Portland—have been among the hardest hit by shootings. Some of these same cities later tacitly conceded that the idea was a failure by re-funding their police departments and re-creating proactive policing programs under new names.
Unfortunately, the issue is not just with the police. How much does policing matter when the justice system intentionally fails to prosecute people for crimes committed?
A huge number of cities elected George Soros-backed, far-left district attorneys and have employed rogue prosecutors who’ve refused to prosecute criminals in the name of social justice.
It’s hard not to see this toxic stew of attitudes and policies as a massive contributing factor toward why we have such a violent mess on our hands now.
“No one factor explains this criminal surge,” the Wall Street Journal editorial board concluded. “But it’s no coincidence that the bloodshed increased as cities slashed police budgets, progressive prosecutors demanded leniency and eliminated bail for criminals, and jails and prisons released thousands of lawbreakers amid the Covid-19 outbreak.”
It’s ironic that many of the defund-the-police policies were putatively adopted to stop “systemic racism.” But as the murder numbers indicate, most of the victims of the violent crime surge have been black and Latino. According to the FBI’s data, over half of the murder victims in 2020 were black.
Cassell’s research shows a strong connection between de-policing and anti-police rhetoric driving surges in shootings. The 2020 numbers strongly back that up.
Departments moved away from proactive policing, and now struggle to clamp down on violent crime as police officers leave the force and are not replaced.
Many of the cities that defunded their police departments in 2020—like Portland—have been among the hardest hit by shootings. Some of these same cities later tacitly conceded that the idea was a failure by re-funding their police departments and re-creating proactive policing programs under new names.
Unfortunately, the issue is not just with the police. How much does policing matter when the justice system intentionally fails to prosecute people for crimes committed?
A huge number of cities elected George Soros-backed, far-left district attorneys and have employed rogue prosecutors who’ve refused to prosecute criminals in the name of social justice.
It’s hard not to see this toxic stew of attitudes and policies as a massive contributing factor toward why we have such a violent mess on our hands now.
“No one factor explains this criminal surge,” the Wall Street Journal editorial board concluded. “But it’s no coincidence that the bloodshed increased as cities slashed police budgets, progressive prosecutors demanded leniency and eliminated bail for criminals, and jails and prisons released thousands of lawbreakers amid the Covid-19 outbreak.”
It’s ironic that many of the defund-the-police policies were putatively adopted to stop “systemic racism.” But as the murder numbers indicate, most of the victims of the violent crime surge have been black and Latino. According to the FBI’s data, over half of the murder victims in 2020 were black.