2018 MidTerm Trends

They were not meaningless when Obama crushed Romney and Mccain. A popular Dem would turnout enough votes in the cities to make the rural areas irrelevant.

That's not how the EC works when these cities are already in states that are solidly Democratic. The number of Democratic votes from these cities in a Presidential election are largely meaningless.
 
That's not how the EC works when these cities are already in states that are solidly Democratic. The number of Democratic votes from these cities in a Presidential election are largely meaningless.

EC takes into account the total votes in the states, it doesn't matter where they come from. If enough people turned out in the cities (like they did for Obama), the rest doesn't matter. We are talking about states like PA, Michigan and Wisconsin where city turnout is the key.
 
Where "fine" is defined as having the lowest number of democrats in elected offices in this country since the civil war. You have to be one of the few democrats in the country who actually knows what the message is. Half of the dems are arguing that you need to move to the center to get in touch with mainstream americans and the other have half to split from the party or take the entire party over to commieville with Bernie.

Pelosi loves ya though. The number of dems under her leadership has just gone south but she is out there arguing that things are fine and she has done a great job. Keep up the good work Comrade. I am sure you will get an extra potato in your rations this month. Even Huffpo and Salon - the bibles of the democrats- are arguing that she needs to go and the dem party- including potential candidates and policies and messaging- is in complete shambles.

If it is working for you then fine because it works for republicans too.

Here is at least one issue that dems can rally around as a start to building consensus. Maybe you will find more by the time 2020 comes:

http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/story/news/2017/07/06/goats-taking-jobs-union-workers/455237001/

Democrat polices are so good republicans have all 3 branches of government and are still struggling to get rid of them.Hows Obamacare lite coming btw?
 
Will Nancy Pelosi survive this latest Dem disaster?
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/06/22/nancy-pelosi-nancy-pelosi-karen-handel/

“Keeping our (House) leadership team completely unchanged,” Democrat Rep. Tim Ryan of Ohio warned last November, “will simply lead to more disappointment in future elections.”

Democrats lost four straight special House elections this year with ex-Speaker Nancy Pelosi at the party helm. In fact, one could argue that Pelosi and her baggage helped fuel the surprisingly easy victory of the GOP’s Karen Handel in Georgia Tuesday. GOP ads there tied Handel’s opponent to Pelosi and her “San Francisco values.”

That theme probably seems strange to the elite inside the Washington Beltway. But in flyover country like Iowa, where President Trump visited last evening, it rings long and loud like Quasimodo’s bells.

Fully one-third of Pelosi’s 193 House Democrats now come from just three states, the usual liberal suspects of California, New York and Massachusetts, not the crucial Heartland. Pelosi’s entire leadership team is also coastal, and like her, linger on in their mid-70s.

“San Francisco values” is a successful meme sure to be reappear in next year’s midterm elections, if — and that if now looms LARGER — Pelosi remains House minority leader. With the strategic planning and wily recruiting of former representative, now Mayor Rahm Emanuel of Chicago, Pelosi became House speaker after the 2006 elections when Democrats retook Congress.

But since Emanuel’s departure, it’s been trouble throughout Pelosi’s reign, BIG trouble. It began in 2010 with the help of Obama and his signature ObamaCare, which Pelosi had to pass to read. In that year’s midterms under Pelosi’s leadership, Democrats suffered the worst House losses of either party in 72 years, a swing of 63 seats to Republicans.

(More at above url)
 
"Democrats lost four straight special House elections "

Republicans lost four special House elections before 2010, did Boehner survive?

HotAir indeed, perfect for dumb Republicans from the house of Michelle 'Internment' Malkin
 
However the Dems need to come up with a new strategy with focused messaging on the issues to take these districts.

The "hate Trump" message coupled with pouring money into the district strategy is not going to work. They just confirmed this in the special elections.

The Democrats need a core message focused on jobs, immigration, world involvement, taxes, medical care, trade, and other important issues to voters -- not just the same old identify politics and divisiveness that they have been pushing.
These concerns you mention, concerns which are "real" in the minds of many voters, are based on both real and manufactured, alternative facts. Underlying, however, is a distrust of government that has been very effectively, and ironically, embedded in political discourse by the Republicans and has become pervasive not just among Republican voters but among many Democrats and independent voters as well. This has opened the door for an articulate and charismatic independent candidate, one that can be seen as an"outsider" to "establishment" politics; one that is not associated with the "deep state" -- just as Trump was seen, Should such a candidate arise in 2020, I think they will have a real chance of succeeding, but only if that candidate can garner the full support of the Democratic National Committee and run as a Democrat. We are not yet at that point where a third party candidate can win easily against even a Donald Trump. The Democrats may be in sufficient disarray to allow it, but the Republicans are not.
 
These concerns you mention, concerns which are "real" in the minds of many voters, are based on both real and manufactured, alternative facts. Underlying, however, is a distrust of government that has been very effectively, and ironically, embedded in political discourse by the Republicans and has become pervasive not just among Republican voters but among many Democrats and independent voters as well. This has opened the door for an articulate and charismatic independent candidate, one that can be seen as an"outsider" to "establishment" politics; one that is not associated with the "deep state" -- just as Trump was seen, Should such a candidate arise in 2020, I think they will have a real chance of succeeding, but only if that candidate can garner the full support of the Democratic National Committee and run as a Democrat. We are not yet at that point where a third party candidate can win easily against even a Donald Trump. The Democrats may be in sufficient disarray to allow it, but the Republicans are not.

But we are definitely at the point- and we have been there before- where a third party candidate can determine the outcome of an election even if said candidate is not the winner. You could be there again very, very easily if the "progressives" put up a third party candidate. Even half percent of the vote could be catatrophic for one of the parties in the many extremely close elections that we have. You think the lefties would stand down and ultimately vote for the dem candidate rather than see a republican win? Heh, think again. They hate the cop-out crooked dems more than they do republicans. Think DeBlasio kind of nuts.

Try getting a candidate for 2020 who is not a serial felon like Hillary. That would at least be a better start than last time.
 
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