Then you're going to have to wait 30 years for your 15 minutes of fame.
In the meantime I recommend you go long on carbon mitigation tech. Should be able to hold for 25 years. : )
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Then you're going to have to wait 30 years for your 15 minutes of fame.
In the meantime I recommend you go long on carbon mitigation tech. Should be able to hold for 25 years. : )
science has no idea if adding more co2 to our air causes warming...
if it did, you would have produce the science years ago... and you would have a stupid little info graph for it too.
if it did, you would have produce the science years ago... and you would have a stupid little info graph for it too.
Yeah sure asshole. That's why 97% of the world's climatologists and virtually ALL of the science orgs agree........that you are a fucking asshole.
You can start here....but you won't, because you have no interest in the truth.
https://www.google.com/search?q=co2...j8&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
cite the science troll... don't give me a link to failed models. I already reviewed some of those links.
the skeptical science link is garbage from an al gore paid whore. He cites models which have failed.
co2 has gone up dramatically the last 17 years... but global temperature has not. The oceans gaining does not stop the models from being wrong.
citing me to the greenhouse effect is ridiculous. We now have scientific proof greenhouse gases also cool. you have no idea if adding man made co2 warms or cools.
NASA already told you that CO2 is like a thermostat. It repels the suns energy.... and you would argue it also keeps some of the warmth in.
Net Net... you have no idea what adding more will do.
the skeptical science link is garbage from an al gore paid whore. He cites models which have failed.
co2 has gone up dramatically the last 17 years... but global temperature has not. The oceans gaining does not stop the models from being wrong.
citing me to the greenhouse effect is ridiculous. We now have scientific proof greenhouse gases also cool. you have no idea if adding man made co2 warms or cools.
NASA already told you that CO2 is like a thermostat. It repels the suns energy.... and you would argue it also keeps some of the warmth in.
Net Net... you have no idea what adding more will do.
You can start here....but you won't, because you have no interest in the truth.
https://www.google.com/search?q=co2+...sm=93&ie=UTF-8
What do any of these results have to do with Global Warming. I guess FC wants us to find out the truth about the Savoia-Marchetti SM.93 Italian dive bomber and the Shure SM93 economical omnidirectional miniature lavalier condenser microphone.
basically a citation to articles which "find" their proof with the models.
once again fc fails to produce any science to support the idea man made co2 causes warming.
once again fc fails to produce any science to support the idea man made co2 causes warming.
jem you fucking ignorant douchebag. I have shown you the science multiple times, and each time you claim it is not there. Your fucking ignorance is NOT MY PROBLEM and no good basis for an argument.
But ONE MORE TIME......
The temperatures are going up, just like the theory predicted. But whereâs the connection with CO2, or other greenhouse gases like methane, ozone or nitrous oxide?
The connection can be found in the spectrum of greenhouse radiation. Using high-resolution FTIR spectroscopy, we can measure the exact wavelengths of long-wave (infrared) radiation reaching the ground.
Sure enough, we can see that CO2 is adding considerable warming, along with ozone (O3) and methane (CH4). This is called surface radiative forcing, and the measurements are part of the empirical evidence that CO2 is causing the warming.
...Must Go Up
How long has CO2 been contributing to increased warming? According to NASA, âTwo-thirds of the warming has occurred since 1975â. Is there a reliable way to identify CO2âs influence on temperatures over that period?
There is: we can measure the wavelengths of long-wave radiation leaving the Earth (upward radiation). Satellites have recorded the Earth's outbound radiation. We can examine the spectrum of upward long-wave radiation in 1970 and 1997 to see if there are changes.
Figure 2: Change in spectrum from 1970 to 1996 due to trace gases. 'Brightness temperature' indicates equivalent blackbody temperature (Harries 2001).
This time, we see that during the period when temperatures increased the most, emissions of upward radiation have decreased through radiative trapping at exactly the same wavenumbers as they increased for downward radiation. The same greenhouse gases are identified: CO2, methane, ozone etc.
The Empirical Evidence
As temperatures started to rise, scientists became more and more interested in the cause. Many theories were proposed. All save one have fallen by the wayside, discarded for lack of evidence. One theory alone has stood the test of time, strengthened by experiments.
We know CO2 absorbs and re-emits longwave radiation (Tyndall). The theory of greenhouse gases predicts that if we increase the proportion of greenhouse gases, more warming will occur (Arrhenius).
Scientists have measured the influence of CO2 on both incoming solar energy and outgoing long-wave radiation. Less longwave radiation is escaping to space at the specific wavelengths of greenhouse gases. Increased longwave radiation is measured at the surface of the Earth at the same wavelengths.
These data provide empirical evidence for the predicted effect of CO2.
But ONE MORE TIME......
The temperatures are going up, just like the theory predicted. But whereâs the connection with CO2, or other greenhouse gases like methane, ozone or nitrous oxide?
The connection can be found in the spectrum of greenhouse radiation. Using high-resolution FTIR spectroscopy, we can measure the exact wavelengths of long-wave (infrared) radiation reaching the ground.
Sure enough, we can see that CO2 is adding considerable warming, along with ozone (O3) and methane (CH4). This is called surface radiative forcing, and the measurements are part of the empirical evidence that CO2 is causing the warming.
...Must Go Up
How long has CO2 been contributing to increased warming? According to NASA, âTwo-thirds of the warming has occurred since 1975â. Is there a reliable way to identify CO2âs influence on temperatures over that period?
There is: we can measure the wavelengths of long-wave radiation leaving the Earth (upward radiation). Satellites have recorded the Earth's outbound radiation. We can examine the spectrum of upward long-wave radiation in 1970 and 1997 to see if there are changes.
Figure 2: Change in spectrum from 1970 to 1996 due to trace gases. 'Brightness temperature' indicates equivalent blackbody temperature (Harries 2001).
This time, we see that during the period when temperatures increased the most, emissions of upward radiation have decreased through radiative trapping at exactly the same wavenumbers as they increased for downward radiation. The same greenhouse gases are identified: CO2, methane, ozone etc.
The Empirical Evidence
As temperatures started to rise, scientists became more and more interested in the cause. Many theories were proposed. All save one have fallen by the wayside, discarded for lack of evidence. One theory alone has stood the test of time, strengthened by experiments.
We know CO2 absorbs and re-emits longwave radiation (Tyndall). The theory of greenhouse gases predicts that if we increase the proportion of greenhouse gases, more warming will occur (Arrhenius).
Scientists have measured the influence of CO2 on both incoming solar energy and outgoing long-wave radiation. Less longwave radiation is escaping to space at the specific wavelengths of greenhouse gases. Increased longwave radiation is measured at the surface of the Earth at the same wavelengths.
These data provide empirical evidence for the predicted effect of CO2.
jem you fucking ignorant douchebag. I have shown you the science multiple times, and each time you claim it is not there. Your fucking ignorance is NOT MY PROBLEM and no good basis for an argument.
But ONE MORE TIME......
The temperatures are going up, just like the theory predicted. But whereâs the connection with CO2, or other greenhouse gases like methane, ozone or nitrous oxide?
The connection can be found in the spectrum of greenhouse radiation. Using high-resolution FTIR spectroscopy, we can measure the exact wavelengths of long-wave (infrared) radiation reaching the ground.
Sure enough, we can see that CO2 is adding considerable warming, along with ozone (O3) and methane (CH4). This is called surface radiative forcing, and the measurements are part of the empirical evidence that CO2 is causing the warming.
...Must Go Up
How long has CO2 been contributing to increased warming? According to NASA, âTwo-thirds of the warming has occurred since 1975â. Is there a reliable way to identify CO2âs influence on temperatures over that period?
There is: we can measure the wavelengths of long-wave radiation leaving the Earth (upward radiation). Satellites have recorded the Earth's outbound radiation. We can examine the spectrum of upward long-wave radiation in 1970 and 1997 to see if there are changes.
Figure 2: Change in spectrum from 1970 to 1996 due to trace gases. 'Brightness temperature' indicates equivalent blackbody temperature (Harries 2001).
This time, we see that during the period when temperatures increased the most, emissions of upward radiation have decreased through radiative trapping at exactly the same wavenumbers as they increased for downward radiation. The same greenhouse gases are identified: CO2, methane, ozone etc.
The Empirical Evidence
As temperatures started to rise, scientists became more and more interested in the cause. Many theories were proposed. All save one have fallen by the wayside, discarded for lack of evidence. One theory alone has stood the test of time, strengthened by experiments.
We know CO2 absorbs and re-emits longwave radiation (Tyndall). The theory of greenhouse gases predicts that if we increase the proportion of greenhouse gases, more warming will occur (Arrhenius).
Scientists have measured the influence of CO2 on both incoming solar energy and outgoing long-wave radiation. Less longwave radiation is escaping to space at the specific wavelengths of greenhouse gases. Increased longwave radiation is measured at the surface of the Earth at the same wavelengths.
These data provide empirical evidence for the predicted effect of CO2.
whine:
"But it's not warmer TODAY, fc!"
/whine
read that last paragraph again...
your "science" is pure speculation...
and it is countered in the comments to the article.
and is certainly does not show causation.
as I have cited to you dozens of times... the amount of co2 in the air... trails the change in ocean temps.
your "science" is pure speculation...
and it is countered in the comments to the article.
and is certainly does not show causation.
as I have cited to you dozens of times... the amount of co2 in the air... trails the change in ocean temps.
jem you fucking ignorant douchebag. I have shown you the science multiple times, and each time you claim it is not there. Your fucking ignorance is NOT MY PROBLEM and no good basis for an argument.
But ONE MORE TIME......
The temperatures are going up, just like the theory predicted. But whereâs the connection with CO2, or other greenhouse gases like methane, ozone or nitrous oxide?
The connection can be found in the spectrum of greenhouse radiation. Using high-resolution FTIR spectroscopy, we can measure the exact wavelengths of long-wave (infrared) radiation reaching the ground.
Sure enough, we can see that CO2 is adding considerable warming, along with ozone (O3) and methane (CH4). This is called surface radiative forcing, and the measurements are part of the empirical evidence that CO2 is causing the warming.
...Must Go Up
How long has CO2 been contributing to increased warming? According to NASA, âTwo-thirds of the warming has occurred since 1975â. Is there a reliable way to identify CO2âs influence on temperatures over that period?
There is: we can measure the wavelengths of long-wave radiation leaving the Earth (upward radiation). Satellites have recorded the Earth's outbound radiation. We can examine the spectrum of upward long-wave radiation in 1970 and 1997 to see if there are changes.
Figure 2: Change in spectrum from 1970 to 1996 due to trace gases. 'Brightness temperature' indicates equivalent blackbody temperature (Harries 2001).
This time, we see that during the period when temperatures increased the most, emissions of upward radiation have decreased through radiative trapping at exactly the same wavenumbers as they increased for downward radiation. The same greenhouse gases are identified: CO2, methane, ozone etc.
The Empirical Evidence
As temperatures started to rise, scientists became more and more interested in the cause. Many theories were proposed. All save one have fallen by the wayside, discarded for lack of evidence. One theory alone has stood the test of time, strengthened by experiments.
We know CO2 absorbs and re-emits longwave radiation (Tyndall). The theory of greenhouse gases predicts that if we increase the proportion of greenhouse gases, more warming will occur (Arrhenius).
Scientists have measured the influence of CO2 on both incoming solar energy and outgoing long-wave radiation. Less longwave radiation is escaping to space at the specific wavelengths of greenhouse gases. Increased longwave radiation is measured at the surface of the Earth at the same wavelengths.
These data provide empirical evidence for the predicted effect of CO2.