2012: The Battle for Survival
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Not necessarily, depends entirely on what the trader is doing and how much he is aiming to earn per trade.
There is some autocorrelation in single system return curves.. At times there are just losing days after losing days, call it being "out of sync" with the market, every 3-4 years a trader should expect to lose for a longer period. The assumption that a good daytrader makes extremely consistent monthly returns for decades is not the norm.
not sure how much credibility is left after your claim of Goldman's daily prop pnl. Certainly their pnl figures are a lot lower, per average day. I know for sure those figures you mentioned are dead wrong but you can easily find out through the last earnings report.
The earnings report does not break down the day to day numbers, but total revenue for 6 months was $ 18.7 billion for all activities. Anyway, that is pretty good for whatever they are doing.
I can assure you that they do not make 100 million on an average day (prop trading desk alone). By the way, the prop trading pnl should have been included in the footnotes unless I am completely off base here.
some call it "Facilitation trading" ;-)
by the way, GS's, and for that matter any bank's, average daily pnl on the prop trading basis can be estimated by looking at their VaR numbers, 100mil is what GS makes on good days but not on average...
by the way, GS's, and for that matter any bank's, average daily pnl on the prop trading basis can be estimated by looking at their VaR numbers, 100mil is what GS makes on good days but not on average...
Period Update for weeks 35-39 ended 10/5/2013
Another period of inconsistent returns just churning and paying slippage and commission. Down 2.6K for the month. Took 2.5K for the month just ended. Have relied exclusively on my tactical trades (all criteria entered way before market opens) as I am not able to trade from my regular job anymore. Might just check my positions say a couple of times at lunch and near close.
Another period of inconsistent returns just churning and paying slippage and commission. Down 2.6K for the month. Took 2.5K for the month just ended. Have relied exclusively on my tactical trades (all criteria entered way before market opens) as I am not able to trade from my regular job anymore. Might just check my positions say a couple of times at lunch and near close.
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Opening Balance: 98,210
Net loss for period (2,633)
Cash Withdrawal (2,500)
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Net Balance: 93,077
For the Thread Year-to-Date 1/6/2013 - 10/5/2013
Opening Balance: 83,156
Net gain 32,321 (Up 39%)
Cash Withdrawal (22,400)
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Net Balance 93,077
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TRADES
TYPE Exite Date/Time P/L
STOCK 2013-09-03-09-59-20 1348.03
OPTION 2013-09-03-09-59-49 1644.31
OPTION 2013-09-04-12-23-42 -1580.95
OPTION 2013-09-04-12-14-35 -592.89
STOCK 2013-09-04-11-05-37 -549.46
STOCK 2013-09-04-13-04-49 -418.32
STOCK 2013-09-04-14-16-43 299.01
STOCK 2013-09-05-11-02-21 -2475.51
OPTION 2013-09-05-13-36-09 1934.31
OPTION 2013-09-05-11-24-58 4674.21
OPTION 2013-09-06-10-17-34 -2292.67
OPTION 2013-09-06-11-15-38 9802.89
STOCK 2013-09-06-10-54-32 -320.81
STOCK 2013-09-06-14-54-05 287.79
STOCK 2013-09-06-15-30-39 -5574.5
STOCK 2013-09-11-15-49-02 411.3
OPTION 2013-09-12-12-25-25 413.3
OPTION 2013-09-13-12-35-58 -4370.03
OPTION 2013-09-16-11-06-17 -1578.09
STOCK 2013-09-20-11-10-05 -1723.71
OPTION 2013-09-20-10-26-03 -2017.52
OPTION 2013-09-20-11-26-48 -1561.01
OPTION 2013-09-23-10-14-24 -1770.77
STOCK 2013-09-24-12-44-17 346.97
OPTION 2013-09-24-12-35-18 1475.47
OPTION 2013-09-27-12-30-15 -299.27
OPTION 2013-09-27-13-57-28 -464.29
OPTION 2013-09-30-12-57-56 -191.58
OPTION 2013-10-02-13-45-21 -654.1
OPTION 2013-10-03-15-08-01 -2659.06
OPTION 2013-10-03-10-15-36 1717.81
OPTION 2013-10-04-13-34-14 4105.94Still a nice overall return..perhaps knowing you can't trade at work will help you keep disciplined to just taking the highest probability trades and not over trading which with our commission rates...is the bane of my existence.
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