2012 taxes from daytrading....shaking here

Quote from oldtime:

???

now that really takes the cake

you want to file as a professional trader

so you can write your expenses off against your real job

ok

I'm pretty agressive against the IRS

but that one takes real balls

are you sure you know what the hell you are talking about?

or do you just like to throw around cool terms like "Professional Trader"?


I would not necessarily use the term "professional trader."

It is just a "trading business" (or not) and any (real) business can carry out losses. Green says he has never lost a case that met his criteria.......
 
Quote from comintel:

I would not necessarily use the term "professional trader,"

It is just a "trading business" (or not) and any (real) business can carry out losses. Green says he has never lost a case that met his criteria.......
unless you have a lot of expenses

and are just trading full time

file as "unemployed"

many are these days, and it won't red flag you.

all I was saying, is, there's a lot of idiots out there that think it is a big deal to get qualified as a "Professional Trader"

they are all for the most part just losers who never spent a Sunday on the gov website

If you can't figure that out, then yes, you should file as "Professional"

because you sure as shit don't have any profits

maybe at least you can write off your foolhardy expenses
 
Taxes make it even harder to justify trading. Not only do you have to beat the odds in "winning", you also pay 30% (if you make enough to warrant trading) to the government.
 
Quote from jficquette:

Taxes make it even harder to justify trading. Not only do you have to beat the odds in "winning", you also pay 30% (if you make enough to warrant trading) to the government.
well trading es, you get the much lower 60/40 split. My first year that was really the difference which made trading slightly more profitable than a real job.
 
Quote from jficquette:

Taxes make it even harder to justify trading. Not only do you have to beat the odds in "winning", you also pay 30% (if you make enough to warrant trading) to the government.

Don't trade then.
 
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