2011: Rebuilding My Battered Account

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Quote from neke:

Weekly Update for week 33/50 ended 8/26/2011


Another bad one, down 6.2K (2.9%).

Was supposed to be a flat week until Thurs when I shorted OVTI @ 18.00 AH. Covered Fri PM @ 19.50 and went long at 19.00, sold @ 17.20. Wicked whipsaw. Total of about 10K lost. This is what happens when your account is at a precariously low level. No ability to hold on based on initial conviction, unable to endure a 5K unrealised loss. It's probably time that will change the current mood. Until then continuing to size low.



Hang in there man. You'll get your mojo back.
 
Quote from konviction:

How does neke choose his option trades?

Most likely based on the underlying. I've not seen strategies that track options. They usually track the underlying and trade the derivative.
 
They are various option strategies, just because Nekes are straight forward buys, and sells. It's possible to lose even when directional is correct, or have profits diminish as volatility comes in.

I use options for swingtrading, and intraday when I can monitor the position. I have been recently buying equities and writing calls waiting for the volatility to come in and cover, or as stock declines cover to lower cost, to write again. Being called on some issues doesn't matter, and on ones I want to keep they are wrtten further out to reduce the probability of being called while premium decays.

It's mainly about knowing yourself, developing strategies in varying market conditions that fit your beliefs, and that will meet your objectives. Then taking a disciplined approach using proper position size.

I'm no Einstein when it comes to the markets. However these last few weeks when using patience and working the plan have created many opportunities. Opportunities that help bring in months of profits in days and weeks. However we see it can also take months and years of profits, and evaporate them within days or weeks. I've been on that side of the fence also in the past. As negative or positive the outcome may be at times, we achieve the results we desire.
 
Quote from cloudy:

Has this already happened to you pattern39? Are you still trading?

There are more traders than ever. The number of trading accounts at brokerages are literally 5 to 10x more than they were 15 years ago. Your neighbor's neighbor may be trading/investing in their private closet rooms and everyone wouldn't even know it. I say trading is becoming like the lottery now. Everyone puts into it. And only a few get the spoils and never have to give it back. But everyone's into it now, so the "karma" is all spread out and doesn't make any difference.

If anything it's the big money funds and firms making the most money and making the swings and fooling retail traders, making dummy pullbacks as they time and separate their massive share selling. They never have to give back their profits what with the corrupt politics and SEC. Just like America will never be given back to the Native Americans. An individual retail trader making hundreds of thousands is increasingly insignificant. Retail traders are trying to make money from the big money and High Frequency Trading computers today as the underdog, not the other way around. Retail traders losing money are losing it to big money movements, not to other retail traders. A retail trader's relative small success is no different than a small shop owner making the same money selling slave-labor made products from China. Those 25 million jobs lost to overseas from the current generations will never be given back to the U.S. The next generation of jobs are going to Brazil and South America's current industrial revolution next.

The reason why it's so easy to lose money back to the markets for the retail traders because it's heavily in favor of the big money. They move the markets. They have massive analyst resources and mass psychology predictability profiles just like TV commercial marketers know which demographic is watching at what time and most likely to buy a certain product. They know how the herd thinks and can time their stop hunting whipsaws and fakeouts accordingly. The small retail trader has a major disadvantage against the armies of HFT computers today.

Go for it Neke, just be careful about over-leveraging your option positions.

My friend, [size="3.5"]you are very naiive.[/size] Just b/c there are more traders than ever doesn't mean the universal laws of cause and effect will be dilute or cease to have any effects... The seasons might change, but the Laws never change.
 
Quote from pattern39:

My friend, [size="3.5"]you are very naiive.[/size] Just b/c there are more traders than ever doesn't mean the universal laws of cause and effect will be dilute or cease to have any effects... The seasons might change, but the Laws never change.

He is not naive, you just dont understand, that traders are acutally commodities for the big players. They actually trader the traders, if you know what I mean. By the time most realise this, they would be broke.

The only way compete is not to day trade but position trade - buy/sell and hold for eternity :)
 
Weekly Update for week 34/50 ended 9/3/2011


Flat week, up 2.3K (1%).

System malfunction most of the week, not able to make much auto/mech trades.



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Opening Balance:                	210,971
Net gain for the week 		          2,275
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Net Balance:                   		213,246

Number of Trades	            	  7
Number of Profitable Trades    	    	  5


Since Inception of Thread   01/8/2011 - 9/3/2011

Opening Balance:                   	335,899
Net loss (Less Margin Interest)		122,653 (Down 36.5%)
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Net Balance				213,246

Number of Trades	           	 677
Number of Profitable Trades        	 358

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Quote from Bear Trader:

He is not naive, you just dont understand, that traders are acutally commodities for the big players. They actually trader the traders, if you know what I mean. By the time most realise this, they would be broke.

The only way compete is not to day trade but position trade - buy/sell and hold for eternity :)

You are soooo ignorant...The best way to make money is trade short term...
 
Quote from ehsmama:

You are soooo ignorant...The best way to make money is trade short term...

Yes it is, BUT it is also the best way to LOSE money as well...!

I suspect what he was saying was that Position trading is an easier way for many reason, however as you state returns will be less than the successful short term trader.
 
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