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This was in absolutely no way similar to the Bin Laden mission. And they sure as hell didn't fly a Chinook filled with SEALS to get Bin Laden.

The attitude displayed in your post I fear is typical of those who feel that the military can do no wrong. This seems especially true when there are deaths. "Rally round the flag boys!"

But as one who grew up in the military and served myself, I can tell you that serious "management" mistakes that costs lives are made every day. But you seldom hear about them.

Questions need to be asked and answered as to why this happened. This was an ERROR. Somebody made the wrong decision.
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Nice job of evading my request for specificity.

The mission had many similarities to the OBL mission:
NIGHT STALKERS flew the helicopter.
SEALS and a dog were aboard to carry out the mission.
It was done at night.
It was flown in known unfriendly territory.
Target was an enemy leader.

Differences:
Chinook vs Black Hawk with stealth capability. I doubt the stealth part played any part in the loss as the guy who launched the RPG wasn't using radar.

I agree with the rest of your post; but it would be good if you would let us know what the "ERROR" was; don't use a generality, be specific.

Seneca

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Quote from lindq:

... serious "management" mistakes that costs lives are made every day. But you seldom hear about them.
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Reminds me a of an incident in Afghanistan where an outpost was located in a valley surrounded by hills crawling with rag heads. They were short on just about everything including water and materials to build fortifications. Some of the families of the many deceased American soldiers, who were KIA needlessly, embarked on a crusade to get the army to even admit errors in command and judgement were made. Finally the army "reprimanded" an officer or two only to reverse the decision later.




My only son, 2nd LT US Army, is in Afghanistan right now.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

My only son, 2nd LT US Army, is in Afghanistan right now.
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We'll pray for his safety. (I say "We" because I know there are others here who will join me.)
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Reminds me a of an incident in Afghanistan where an outpost was located in a valley surrounded by hills crawling with rag heads. They were short on just about everything including water and materials to build fortifications. Some of the families of the many deceased American soldiers, who were KIA needlessly, embarked on a crusade to get the army to even admit errors in command and judgement were made.
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You may be referring to the operation highlighted in the documentary RESTREPO.

Highly recommended for anyone who has not seen it.

http://restrepothemovie.com/
 
Quote from lindq:

You may be referring to the operation highlighted in the documentary RESTREPO.

Highly recommended for anyone who has not seen it.

http://restrepothemovie.com/
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I've seen, at least most of, that movie. But I'm not sure it's what I was thinking of. The incident I remember was a battle the US soldiers
almost lost and there were many casualties most due to their lack of materials and their poor location. Decided on by an officer not posted there of course.
 
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