2 Russian gas pipelines sabotaged by CIA? :-)

I don’t really care either way between Ukraine and Russia. But if no targets are off limits, then undersea cables, satellites, cargo ships and plans and trains, are all fair games.

and the north sea pipeline?
 
Until yesterday you did not cry us a river about Ukraine whatsoever. Today your woke tears are dripping all over the place. Where were you when injustice is done in many places? I have not seen or heard from you ever before. But all of a sudden Ukraine, one of the most corrupt nations on earth is worthy of defending it? Not in my book. That country can go to hell as far as I am concerned.

Whataboutism stage again?

Russia is invading a European country in a genocidal war. And "some people" "seem" to wonder why everyone wants to become a NATO member and nobody wants to become Russia? Go to Russia and stay there, both of you. Trade the Russian stock market, if any of you even trades at all, and stay in the Russian trading forums. I'm sure you will meet a lot of like-minded people there, great growth market, and it will be fun - unless you'll be sent as cannon fodder into Ukraine, of course. That's probably less fun.

Russians are mass murderers of women and children. Every day. This has to end. Now. Russia has to leave Ukraine, pay reparations, and war criminals need to be brought to justice.
 
Until yesterday you did not cry us a river about Ukraine whatsoever. Today your woke tears are dripping all over the place. Where were you when injustice is done in many places? I have not seen or heard from you ever before. But all of a sudden Ukraine, one of the most corrupt nations on earth is worthy of defending it? Not in my book. That country can go to hell as far as I am concerned.

You are completely delusional. But we all noticed already that you would like to personally send 44 million innocent people, women and children to hell. That's who your hero Putin is, and that's who you are. Disgusting mass murderers, one for real, the other in his Nazi fantasies.

I just wonder why you are still here and didn't already pick up a knife, to head for the front to kill children and their mothers in some small Ukrainian town? We know that's what you really want to do.
 
You missed the point, or I was not clear.

My point was that Russia is justified to do anything in its interest to keep Nato affiliated countries away from its direct borders. If you can't do that, then invade them. Cuba missile crisis ring any bells? The US until today "occupies" a piece of the land and uses it to torture humans in violation of the Geneva conventions. How come we never hear you get so outraged about that as well?

How does Guantamo bay factor into this. What do you think happens in Russian bases in Kazakhstan, Armenia, Syria? You're changing the topic here, deliberately.
If Russia can do "anything" as you say then the same goes for NATO countries (including nuking Moscow) and it's a pointless discussion.
 
Until yesterday you did not cry us a river about Ukraine whatsoever. Today your woke tears are dripping all over the place. Where were you when injustice is done in many places? I have not seen or heard from you ever before. But all of a sudden Ukraine, one of the most corrupt nations on earth is worthy of defending it? Not in my book. That country can go to hell as far as I am concerned.

You really are a champion of demagoguery or rather using the classical Soviet era argument - see "And you are lynching Negroes".
I think Ukrainians wouldn't fight so hard against an invader if the invader was a more advanced, more civilised one. And everyone except you here understands that Ukraine is just a stepping stone to go further. If Putin got Ukraine then he would have connected Transnistrian territory and would launch an attack on Moldova fairly quickly.
 
I provided a direct parallel, the US reserves the right to attack any territory which directly or indirectly borders the US and which hosts Russia. So, why does Russia not have the same rights to attack, including invade, any territory that borders Russia and which is directly seeking to join forces with Nato, quite directly with the US?

How does Guantamo bay factor into this. What do you think happens in Russian bases in Kazakhstan, Armenia, Syria? You're changing the topic here, deliberately.
If Russia can do "anything" as you say then the same goes for NATO countries (including nuking Moscow) and it's a pointless discussion.
 
And why not, for what it's worth he can repossess all the former Russian protectorates. Why should Germany or France care about that? It's not in their backyard nor have those people of such countries shown that they have the slightest interest in acting in a civilized, ethical, and moral manner, worthy of joining a world community of like minded nations.

Admit it, you just hate Russia with all your gut, you don't give a shit about Moldova, Ukraine, or Georgia. At least yesterday you did not.

You really are a champion of demagoguery or rather using the classical Soviet era argument - see "And you are lynching Negroes".
I think Ukrainians wouldn't fight so hard against an invader if the invader was a more advanced, more civilised one. And everyone except you here understands that Ukraine is just a stepping stone to go further. If Putin got Ukraine then he would have connected Transnistrian territory and would launch an attack on Moldova fairly quickly.
 
And why not, for what it's worth he can repossess all the former Russian protectorates. Why should Germany or France care about that? It's not in their backyard nor have those people of such countries shown that they have the slightest interest in acting in a civilized, ethical, and moral manner, worthy of joining a world community of like minded nations.

Admit it, you just hate Russia with all your gut, you don't give a shit about Moldova, Ukraine, or Georgia. At least yesterday you did not.

I'm glad you've displayed that you have 100% overlap in thinking compared to Russian fascists. There's nothing more to talk about.
 
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