2 Russian gas pipelines sabotaged by CIA? :-)

For reference - in 2013 the undersea gas pipeline connecting China and Hong-Kong was damaged. It took 4 years to repair.

All the dreams of European collaborationists about getting Russian gas again through those pipelines have just crashed hard.
 
Snuskpelle said:
Why Russian? Because this is exactly the sort of thing they've engaged in in this conflict. In addition, nobody else have a remote reason to do this.
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Ukrainian obviously if not Nuland ordered it, kill Europeans reliance on Russian gas and sell us LNG.

NSs are 50/50 JV so Russian would have to flood the repair bills if it resumes, that's a lot of zeros.
 
I bet the EU bureucrats will deny the Russian investiagtion team a visa to the damaged location, to humiliate the Russians.... (the two damaged locations lie in Swedish and Belgian waters I think).
 
mervyn said:
Ukrainian obviously if not Nuland ordered it, kill Europeans reliance on Russian gas and sell us LNG.

NSs are 50/50 JV so Russian would have to flood the repair bills if it resumes, that's a lot of zeros.
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Except Ukraine does not at all benefit. Russia does, it is waging an active energy war on Europe. That Ukraine is behind is the propaganda line coming out of Kreml sources naturally.

Expense of repairing NS is several orders of magnitude lower than the cost of losing the war. Cost of repairing destroyed infrastructure in Ukraine was north of $350 billion a while ago, expect that bill to be passed on to Russia if "they" lose (whether that country will exist after the war is a different question as most minorities want to break it up).
 
Snuskpelle said:
Except Ukraine does not at all benefit. Russia does, it is waging an active energy war on Europe. That Ukraine is behind is the propaganda line coming out of Kreml sources naturally.

Expense of repairing NS is several orders of magnitude lower than the cost of losing the war. Cost of repairing destroyed infrastructure in Ukraine was north of $350 billion a while ago, expect that bill to be passed on to Russia if "they" lose (whether that country will exist after the war is a different question as most minorities want to break it up).
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Europe is always at war, just because we have relatively periods of calm, doesn't mean humankinds are at peace. Taiwan is next.
 
2 Russian gas pipelines sabotaged by CIA? :-)

-I thought a thread with such a whacky title would come from a nut job. I am not disappointed.

Why would USA sabotage gas pipelines that supply desperately needed energy resources to Europe when Europe is the closest ally to the USA? Biden is stupid but not that stupid. LOL Seriously the guy doesn't even think when creating clickbait now. It worked. I responded.
 
TheDawn said:
2 Russian gas pipelines sabotaged by CIA? :)

-I thought a thread with such a whacky title would come from a nut job. I am not disappointed.

Why would USA sabotage gas pipelines that supply desperately needed energy resources to Europe when Europe is the closest ally to the USA? Biden is stupid but not that stupid. LOL Seriously the guy doesn't even think when creating clickbait now. It worked. I responded.
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Hrmmm, here's a stretch of the imagination...Maybe so Biden's admin can increase the cost of all the LNG we are going to send to them now on ships? I honestly don't think this is a USA thing though. I think it's a Putin move, because he is not right in the head.
 
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