1976 - 2020 - End of the presidential campaign as most of have known

[UsualName]

• Republicans have voted unanimously to end participation in the presidential commission on debates.

• Democrats signaling moving from Iowa/NH historical first primaries.

Should be interesting next cycle to not have a guaranteed face to face debate. For the record I never felt they were necessary and performance in a debate really has no bearing on fitness for the presidency. Although, they have been venues for historic shifts in the presidential race. Sort of a dog and pony show in my opinion.

If democrats move their first primaries to states that are more “battleground” then it will actually move democrats — and right wingers are going to be in disbelief here — more to the center. My take on this is it is good. Too much liberal weight on the front end of the primary schedule and it doesn’t reflect the makeup of the party.

Anyway, both would be very big moves on their own but we are moving into a new era of campaigning. It should be different than what most of us are accustomed to.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Part of me is all for it. Face to face debates in recent years have been embarrassing for the country. People just can't behave. Romney and Obama were pretty good. If candidates could just behave themselves, and not make it a WWE competition, then it would be very valuable.

But without a face to face, its really just a marketing campaign.

 

[Mercor]

Let the 2 candidates talk face to face....no moderator

 

[Tsing Tao]

Let the 2 candidates talk face to face....no moderator

That's what we saw with Trump and Biden. Oh sure, there was a moderator, but he couldn't get a word in edgewise.

 

[smallfil]

Let each candidate ask each other the tough questions without biased moderators picking softball questions for their favorite candidates. If you cannot answer the tough questions, no way in hell, you deserve to be elected President of the United States. Also, no cue cards or teleprompters allowed to help candidates.

 

[UsualName]

We’ll think about this a little bit… the debates have provided a chance to get your message to a large audience compromised of all Americans - a chance to speak beyond your bubble.

This was actually useful. Candidates now have figure out a way to do that without this format… how?

Or, totally ignore the larger electorate and focus in on base politics.

My knee jerk reaction is if there is no face to face meeting if the candidates where you have to be careful how you portray yourself then candidates are going to default to the base.

 

[El OchoCinco]

• Republicans have voted unanimously to end participation in the presidential commission on debates.

• Democrats signaling moving from Iowa/NH historical first primaries.

Should be interesting next cycle to not have a guaranteed face to face debate. For the record I never felt they were necessary and performance in a debate really has no bearing on fitness for the presidency. Although, they have been venues for historic shifts in the presidential race. Sort of a dog and pony show in my opinion.

If democrats move their first primaries to states that are more “battleground” then it will actually move democrats — and right wingers are going to be in disbelief here — more to the center. My take on this is it is good. Too much liberal weight on the front end of the primary schedule and it doesn’t reflect the makeup of the party.

Anyway, both would be very big moves on their own but we are moving into a new era of campaigning. It should be different than what most of us are accustomed to.

Dems trying to win the party nomination go full batshit left wing crazy simply trying to cater to the loudest section of the left competing with others trying to do the same. It is so blatant they are pandering and w hy we heard nothing but police, student loans, racism blah blah blah for the first 4 -6 months of the election cycle. Then when the nom is narrowed down we have the true colors come out as they try to win a centralized position and push away the fringes.

It would be better for Dems to ignore the heavy left wing weight at the front which made AOC and Bernie seem like big leaders early and led to money on this forum to be obssessed with them daily. Then after the initial stages the Bernies and AOCs were put back in the closet and ignored.

 

[ipatent]

There can still be debates, just not through the Commission.

 

[Tony Stark]

Dems trying to win the party nomination go full batshit left wing crazy simply trying to cater to the loudest section of the left competing with others trying to do the same. It is so blatant they are pandering and w hy we heard nothing but police, student loans, racism blah blah blah for the first 4 -6 months of the election cycle. Then when the nom is narrowed down we have the true colors come out as they try to win a centralized position and push away the fringes.

It would be better for Dems to ignore the heavy left wing weight at the front which made AOC and Bernie seem like big leaders early and led to money on this forum to be obssessed with them daily. Then after the initial stages the Bernies and AOCs were put back in the closet and ignored.

Good luck to Dems winning elections with that strategy.Bidens SOTU speech sounded like it was written for a republican president,look where hes at now

Good luck in 2022 and 2024 ignoring police reform, student loans, racism etc

 

[Tony Stark]

we heard nothing but police, student loans, racism blah blah blah

Biden ran heavily on that in 2020 and he and House Dems got the most votes in Presidential and House election history.Highest black voter turnout ever,which he desperately needed.He wont get it in 2024 though.