18 year old trades

Bought 16 HGG January 10 $15 puts at $1.30. Stock was upraged from equal weight to overweight and it opened up about 7%. Then it rallied for the remainder of the day, which I think was mostly short covering. Shares short were 17% of float as of end of august. finished up 20%.
 
My limit order for 50 MWA november 09 $5 puts was filled right before close for $.50.

They went up 12% on news that they expanded a future planned stock offering from 27.5 to 32.3 million dollars. The stock took a hit when they first announced the stock offering a week ago but then began rallying. I think it is overbought and I don't consider the offering expansion good news. The money will not be used as investment or expansion, it is just to repay some debt.

I also like the fact that they put in place a 30 day option to buy an additional 4 million shares to soak up any excess demand. That should put some nice selling pressure on the stock. I've got a looser stop because I want to give this trade more time to play out if it needs it.
 
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I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK I SHOULD DO WITH MY MONEY.

If you wanna comment on my TRADES, or talk about my strategy, or propose new ideas for trades, I'd be thrilled to engage you in a productive conversation that we both can benefit from. If you want say how much money I will lose or what is the best age to start a hedge fund, or say how dumb I am cause I'm 18 even though you dont know me at all, or even speculate about my gender, then dont post it on this thread, PLEASE.


BANG ON!!!

F%^K the haters.....

The fact you make a point to ignore the BS that goes on this forum tells me your 90% ahead of the rest...

Catching knives isn't easy, but it can be done.....I've met a few people who have failed, and a few who have made a MOTSA!!!!! Your taking a position in the market when emotions are at the extreme, and you need to outsmart and outwit 95% of the market..... Not easy by any means but you seem to have a level head.... Put in the hard yards, embrace the swings....you'll get there.....It's not my style but will watch the thread with interest and chip in where I can....

All I can contribute is position sizing, position sizing.............oh and position sizing...

Be ultra conservative with your initial capital...... I would be risking 1% of capital per trade.... nothing more.....Once you get into a rhythm get ULTRA aggressive with your profit... I like to think in terms of profits being the markets cash, not my own. My only risk is the cash I put in, nothing more. Why be aggressive with my own hard earned cash, when I can risk someone elses? And what better time to get aggresive, than when you have clearly been on the right track. 90% of people won't agree with me here but whatever.... 90% fail
 
it's doable. some of my setups are based on this very premise.

the most important thing with this strategy is to maintain your discipline on the losers, and to get out of your winenrs in your timeframe (ie. don't hold them longer, which contradicts most normal trading strategies).

you'll take the periodic hit on some unexpected news that goes counter, but as long as you don't take too large a position, you'll be ok.

on cramer - make sure the gaps are big enough. i was in FLEX as well, but with the stock. sometimes, the cramer gap will actually run for longer than it should, almost always with a thin stock that has somewhat of a short interest near all time highs. cramer sells have much less of an impact than the buys.

don't get overconfident, and remember, the most important thing is maintaining your initial stake.
 
also, just a warning; you'll find that sometimes, secondaries which don't collapse (near the price of the secondary) explode. jeff cooper included this in his book hit and run about 10 years ago or so.

if you succeed, you'll eventually get a list of "here's rules / setups that won't work as well". i could be dead wrong, but buying the MWA puts on that technical setup looks ugly.
 
I am 18 years old trading with 30k as of 9/15.
I trade stocks that overreact to a catalyst. I take the opposite view to a stock that just had a big one day move. I DO NOT try to pick tops or bottoms of momentum driven stocks. I try to step in before and capitalize off of the bottom pickers or profit takers of a stock that just ran up or got hammered.

??? What you describe IS bottom and top picking of momentum driven stocks.:)
 
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45 LCC oct 09 $6 puts filled at 1.15. Stock pretty volatile this morning, jumped on the AMR news of financing. I don't think a 20% move is appropriate for news of a similiar company getting financing. Although it is good news for the industry, and the industry is up today but I don't think it warrrants this move in this particular stock. LCC still losing a lot of money. I don't see anything abnormal in the options market that could hint that LCC may get new liquidity in the near future.

sold the puts for a loss at $1.10, should of got out on friday probably.
 
Saw that one coming, lucky you didn't lose a lot more on that one. You need to wait, wait, wait, and oh....wait.

Get the perfect set-up then trade. Too aggressive is my downfall, you don't need to make a trade. Market is open like 24/7 now. Be super selective. Just my 2 cents.
 
I started trading when I was 19, that was over 5 years ago and I didn't have a clue. I got lucky and made a little my first year or 2, then the summer correction in 06 killed me. I think I lost close to half my account. That's when I learned your opinions on a stock moving too far are not an edge. My suggestion is to go pro, I finished college and 2 months after graduation went to a pro firm and started trading. Discretionary retail trading in my opinion is a losing game. You will bounce around and doubt yourself and will get hurt badly, the market will humble you. Would you have bought ELN down 40% because you thought it was an overreaction... probably, things like that will happen, not to say your strategy is flawed, but you say you want to buy with a trend after an overreaction, many times the overreaction is the end of the trend. If you are trading short term for a small bounce, then you are stepping in front of a train to pick up pennies.
 
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No kidding!!! Its my damn thread, yet I have a third of the posts. There is more posting about how and when I'm gonna fail than their is about my trades. One person says I should just put the 30k in a cd and paper trade for now. Then the next guy says I should put 25 k in a cd and trade with 5 k. Then the next says I should swing trade futures with 25-35 k, even though I've never even seen a future traded in my whole entire life. THATS why I do not give a SHIT about the advice you have for what I do with my money. One person tells me one thing and then another guy says I should do the exact opposite.

I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK I SHOULD DO WITH MY MONEY.

If you wanna comment on my TRADES, or talk about my strategy, or propose new ideas for trades, I'd be thrilled to engage you in a productive conversation that we both can benefit from. If you want say how much money I will lose or what is the best age to start a hedge fund, or say how dumb I am cause I'm 18 even though you dont know me at all, or even speculate about my gender, then dont post it on this thread, PLEASE.

We are. Your strategy is garbage. Plain and simple. I wasn't going to say it. You have no edge. PERIOD.

Yeah that was me telling you to play with the 5k. If you don't want to do it, that's fine. But eventually you'll have to start listening to someone with plenty more experience. .......Probably once the market crushes one of those 20% positions you put on.
 
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