18 Reported Dead In El Paso Mass Shooting, Alleged Racist ‘Manifesto’ Posted

Let's be honest, no virgin pimple faced loser is going to cast and reload his own bullets. We should start with debit/cash only purchases. No credit
As I've already stated, I have no issue with making guns and accessories much more difficult to get. Banning them altogether will not work.
 
I was speaking to the more over-arching issue the dude from "not America" doesn't understand about this whole mess. Once you take away the one, the arguments will then fall to taking away the others. And just like you point out, if anti-gun is the way to go, then anti-everything is the way to go, because everything can be used as a weapon.

I agree that semi-autos can be used for mass killings. Were they designed for that purpose by the manufacturer? Perhaps. But a deranged lunatic who is really good with a knife could run through any packed mall on a weekend with a sharp knife and kill just as many people. Maybe even more, because the deaths are silent.



And that's why the quote I listed from the article the OP has posted is moot. CCW, OC, the like. It all does not matter to a deranged person intent on killing a lot of people in a short amount of time.


I didn't point that out.

You're getting deeper into the fallacy. You don't prohibit something engineered for a peaceful purpose. How many people could these incels have killed by throwing rocks?

100% semi-auto for civilian sales. An auto-sear for an MP5 runs $35K. Hughes Amendment. So all civilian sales are semi-auto.

You cannot honestly believe that a knife-wielding assailant can do as much damage. You have to get close. I'm not going to get into gory detail, but it's not remotely analogous.

I don't know WTF you live but I am steering clear of your silent mall ninjas.
 
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No, it comes from giving people the training necessary to know when and when not deadly force is a feasible option, as a licensed firearms instructor for the state of Massachusetts, here in the USA, where you do not live, and are not a citizen of. It comes from probable scenarios, options for self-defense. Legalities, logistics, etc.

Don't mess with me on this, non-American dude.

No messing, American dude. I just cannot see why any American would want SA weapons readily available when so many of your people have been murdered far too young. It's confusing. But then maybe you're worried about your job as a FA instructor being under threat.

What probable scenarios are you talking about specifically because your scary bed time story from before is not a probable scenario for self defence?
 
What has changed in the last 30 years that causes high school kids to slaughter their classmates?
Bullying has gone on forever. Back in the normal times you get into a fist fight and it was over after that.

So what has changed?

1- what percentage of sub 18 year olds are on some kind of medication for whatever??

2- The Internet, cell phones, social media. Kids used to be able to escape the harassment after school was over. Now they are attacked 24/7 on FB, TWTR, Instagram, etc.

3- Kids aren’t allowed to get in fist fights anymore. Just like the NHL, let the kids police themselves. Take a few punches, dish out a beating, etc and the bullying will stop.
Now they bottle everything up until it escalates into a massacre.

4- The Media GLORIFIES the shooters. Posts their names, pictures, manifestos, etc all over the TV, Internet, radio etc 24/7 for weeks.

Stop blaming “guns” and fix the bullshit above and the senseless shooting will cease.

your argument is as stupid as you are. all the issues you brought up exist in other first world countries too but you don't see 250 mass-shootings in the span of only six months, that is more than 2 mass-shootings per day. the only thing that is different between us and the other first world countries is that we have firearms easily available to all. THAT IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM.
 
I grew up in a time where when young you throw rocks and fists, saw blood and broken bones, you learned how to fight instead of hiding behind keyboards today. Your Uncle's and Father taught you how to be a man, you didn't run away and yell it was not your fault like today, you accepted your failures and learned from them, you learned to work, to get going in life and "leave the nest". Much of who I see of our youth still live with parents, unemployed or part time jobs, have no direction, no manners but they have plenty of opinions, always easier to blame the ones who trying to take benefits from them as they to lazy to get with the flow.

I am a conservative Republican, voted for President Trump and will again, I vote for the principles. Those who don't like Mr. Trump will find anything wrong and blame him. Those who have problems with our country never have actual solutions, just complaints or who to get out of office, shootings were going on when Obama was President, what were you saying then?

You want less shootings? More people should carry guns, I do everywhere I go when I am in Texas. I live near edge of El Paso.

My heart and prayers are for all the families who never knew today be their last day to spend breakfast with someone they love. God Bless you all.
oh just shut the fuck up with your bullshit, where have all of these "good guys with guns" been during the last 250 mass-shootings in the past six months?
 
No messing, American dude. I just cannot see why any American would want SA weapons readily available when so many of your people have been murdered far too young. It's confusing. But then maybe you're worried about your job as a FA instructor being under threat.

What probable scenarios are you talking about specifically because your scary bed time story from before is not a probable scenario for self defence?


We can't own FA guns unless it was manufactured before enactment of the Hughes Amendment. IOW, no new sears are in civilian hands unless said civilian is a SOT FFL manufacturer. And even then the FFL must treat the FA mechanism as a "post (1986) dealer sample."
 
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