18 Reported Dead In El Paso Mass Shooting, Alleged Racist ‘Manifesto’ Posted

destriero said:
You cannot do anything about the 70MM ARs in the US... but you can prohibit ammo and mag sales.
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Target shooting is fun, semi-auto rifles are fun. How do you keep these capabilities from psychos? Only thing I can think of without infringing on the 2nd is to price them out, but this trailer trash is still dropping a grand on these w/o remorse. Vegas shooter had the means too.

Short of treating these as terrorists and then infringing on their 1st by monitoring their online activities using the patriot act, and then infringing on their 2nd, I don't see a way around it.
 
Here4money said:
eh...pussies like these are easily manipulated animals. Fox or a father figures like Trump tells them their failings in life are because of blacks, muslims, Mexicans, insert scapegoat, and they'll believe it.

It's the same strategy that leads to suicide bombers and we have no problem denouncing that brainwashing rhetoric. Now because Trumpers have buyers remorse they'll double down instead of admitting the obvious.

edit: Just came across this gem a few minutes of writing the above:

Rod Rosenstein, the former deputy attorney general, wrote on Twitter late Saturday that “killing random civilians to spread a political message is terrorism.”

“F.B.I. classifies it as domestic terrorism, but ‘white terrorism’ is more precise,” Mr. Rosenstein said on Twitter. “Many of the killers are lone-wolf losers indoctrinated to hate through the internet, just like Islamic terrorists.”
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I agree with your post. Now, will you also apply the same reasoning to left wing media's support of groups like Antifa? Will you condemn the left calling everyone they disagree with a racist? And so on. My point: There is no shortage of encouragement or motivation to mentally unstable individuals being dished out by the left as well as the right. Let's hear condemnation of all of it.

I personally believe anyone who can point a rifle at a toddler and pull the trigger has issues that go way beyond political leanings though I won't dispute that political rhetoric can certainly act as a trigger.
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wjk said:
I agree with your post. Now, will you also apply the same reasoning to left wing media's support of groups like Antifa? Will you condemn the left calling everyone they disagree with a racist? And so on. My point: There is no shortage of "encouragement or motivation" being dished out by the left as well as the right. Let's hear condemnation of all of it.

I personally believe anyone who can point a rifle at a toddler and pull the trigger has issues that go way beyond political leanings though I won't dispute that political rhetoric can certainly act as a trigger.
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Nobody's getting killed with milkshakes, when the left starts calling for the wanton killing or jailing of racists without trial, I'll condemn them.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/04/politics/beto-orourke-trump-white-nationalist-cnntv/index.html
 
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Here4money said:
Nobody's getting killed with milkshakes
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Weak diversion, but thanks for showing your bias and your ability to block out reality. Maybe you just aren't up on the latest news, but most likely your views are just too one sided for reason.
 
CaptainObvious said:
"Its a lot easier,practical and realistic to keep guns out of their hands than the bull shit clubber posted"

And there it is, just what I'm talking about. It's easier? Easy won't fix this. It is not at all practical or realistic to ban guns. Clubber is right on point and it's very complicated. There is no easy fix. The knee just reaction of the left for every problem is lets tax it, or lets ban it. How's that been working out?
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The guys doing the mass shootings in The US couldn't get their hands on those guns in Japan.
 
Here4money said:
Target shooting is fun, semi-auto rifles are fun. How do you keep these capabilities from psychos? Only thing I can think of without infringing on the 2nd is to price them out, but this trailer trash is still dropping a grand on these w/o remorse. Vegas shooter had the means too.

Short of treating these as terrorists and then infringing on their 1st by monitoring their online activities using the patriot act, and then infringing on their 2nd, I don't see a way around it.
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VTECH shooter killed and wounded way more with a $500 and $300 pistol



Southerland springs shooter wasn't legally allowed to own a gun yet slipped through the law from govt error.



And what stopped his massacre in that church ?

Not law enforcement.
But a good guy with an AR


https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/stephen-willeford-sutherland-springs-mass-murder/
 
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vanzandt said:
Bs you say?
You don't think 24/7 bullying that belittles a young person in front of perhaps 1000's in their school doesn't fuck with their self-esteem? I couldn't imagine what that must be like.
You don't think bottling up emotion until you can't bottle it up any more is healthy?
Why do you think the teen suicide rate in this country keeps climbing? Too many guns? I don't think that's it Tony.
Its f'd up. Maybe you're to young to remember a world without social media and the 24/7 news cycles... but I promise you things have changed because of it. Mostly for the worse imo, and seeing as how I have lived on both sides of that generational change and I'm not fucking stupid, I think my opinion is pretty well informed.
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I agree but we have to stop bullied people from getting the guns.People are bullied all over the world but no country has the mass killings that The US does.
 
volente_00 said:
VTECH shooter killed and wounded way more with a $500 and $300 pistol



Southerland springs shooter wasn't legally allowed to own a gun yet slipped through the law from govt error.



And what stopped his massacre in that church ?

Not law enforcement.
But a good guy with an AR
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I mean, I'd peel their skin on live tv strip by strip, but then that goes against the unusual punishment clause.
 
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