18 Reported Dead In El Paso Mass Shooting, Alleged Racist ‘Manifesto’ Posted

Can we not politicize this?
I know feelings run high here and everybody wants to take sides, but for real, the best post on this thread, and omg heaven forbid we acknowledge it, was Clubber's. There was not a hint of political bent to it, aside from the last line. But that was ok too.
He is absolutely right in everything he wrote.
There's a bigger picture here. Clubber nailed it. He's 100% right.
100%.

You're somewhat delusional then about what is actually happening. As I stated, until American boomers die out I hold out little hope for any solutions. Just look at how hard some of you resist any changes to social policy on this site.
 
If I recall my political history, neither Canada nor any Scandinavian country was an unclaimed land, that was then researched/explored by an enterprising group of explorers, who then settled into the new-found untamed land, got comfortable, got really pissy when the church of England got involved from across the pond in their religious affairs (quaker/puritan thing), then got taxed, locals reached boiling point, revolution ensued, reign of the monarchy/overlord was squashed, independence declared, constitution guaranteeing freedoms was ratified, with the provision that if anything like that were to happen again (what the Brits tried to do with the colonists), would be prevented by this new extra Bill of Rights, which grants the people the right to repel the government.

Did that sort of thing ever happen in Canada, or Finland? Iceland?

Geez. Here4, come on man. Apple, meet orange.

so what you're saying is British frontiersmen in the southern territories were somehow manlier than those up north? Is that your argument? And that somehow we have forgotten those roots from 300 yrs ago so is why we are shooting each other now? You never heard of the vikings? C'mon man
 
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Clubber's an ignorant moron. I have similar reservations about you now. Incredible how far Americans will go to protect their right to carry military grade weapons and promote a society with obscene wealth disparity. What could go wrong ? Other countries aren't immune to violence but the levels in the US are massively higher then any other first world country. How much more of this shit has to go down before you wake up ?

There is no surprise when these events occur in the US. It's part of your culture as designed. Big, sweeping changes have to be made on numerous fronts ( gun control, health care, poverty, ... ) and it seems until the boomers die out there isn't the will to get anything done.
2 questions.
What does "as designed" mean? That earns an instant loss of credibility ok. Park the conspiracy stuff at the door.

Second... WTF did Clubber say that was wrong?

How old are you? This goes beyond your opinionated war on firearms and the poverty rant.
You've been here awhile Nine-Ender and we've had our words.... so I'll still stop short of calling you the ignorant one like you called him in the hope an intellectual discussion can follow, but let me say that things have changed exponentially in this world. I don't have an answer or a solution... but I can say to you please don't be a tunnel-visioned simpleton here, which is exactly what the post I just quoted from you portends. See the bigger picture my friend. Don't scapegoat events based on your view of the world. You are not omnipotent, and the opinion you express here via the words you write reflects the lack of depth required to comprehend the root of this discussion.

Quit calling people names ok. Glass houses.
 
2 questions.
What does "as designed" mean? That earns an instant loss of credibility ok. Park the conspiracy stuff at the door.

Second... WTF did Clubber say that was wrong?

How old are you? This goes beyond your opinionated war on firearms and the poverty rant.
You've been here awhile Nine-Ender and we've had our words.... so I'll still stop short of calling you the ignorant one like you called him in the hope an intellectual discussion can follow, but let me say that things have changed exponentially in this world. I don't have an answer or a solution... but I can say to you please don't be a tunnel-visioned simpleton here, which is exactly what the post I just quoted from you portends. See the bigger picture my friend. Don't scapegoat events based on your view of the world. You are not omnipotent, and the opinion you express here via the words you write reflects the lack of depth required to comprehend the root of this discussion.

Quit calling people names ok. Glass houses.
Lang is one of the biggest pieces of shit on this board, look at his history of racist post and whining, he needs the crap kicked out of him. He’s the pure definition of a punk. His vulva is the size of the Grand Canyon .
 
I just read through the manifesto. This psychopath was all over the map. He references the New Zealand shooter, and it's clear that he had a similar mindset. The NZ shooter said that he felt like Muslims were invading much of Europe. This guy said that he felt like illegal immigrants were invading the U.S.

It's hard to get a take on his political stances. He says many things that make him sound like a radical right winger. But he also says that republicans are terrible, and his environmentalism and anti-corporations stance make him sound like a left winger.

Many will try to blame this on Trump, but based off what he wrote, the democratic shift towards open borders and citizenship for illegal immigrants had a bigger affect on him than anything. That shift would've occurred regardless of who was in the white house. He said he felt this way before Trump even started running his campaign.

This is happening so often that we're starting to become numb to it. I'm not sure how we do it, but we need to find a way to stop people like this from buying firearms.
 
Can we not politicize this?
I know feelings run high here and everybody wants to take sides, but for real, the best post on this thread, and omg heaven forbid we acknowledge it, was Clubber's. There was not a hint of political bent to it, aside from the last line. But that was ok too.
He is absolutely right in everything he wrote.
There's a bigger picture here. Clubber nailed it. He's 100% right.
100%.


Yeah, nothing political about a racist immigrant hating Trump supporter with an AK 47 shooting 46 people
 
It's hard to get a take on his political stances.

Yeah,thats a tough one






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There is no democratic stance for open borders. Stop reading Fox News. There is a huge middle ground between separating children in detention centers and open borders.





I just read through the manifesto. This psychopath was all over the map. He references the New Zealand shooter, and it's clear that he had a similar mindset. The NZ shooter said that he felt like Muslims were invading much of Europe. This guy said that he felt like illegal immigrants were invading the U.S.

It's hard to get a take on his political stances. He says many things that make him sound like a radical right winger. But he also says that republicans are terrible, and his environmentalism and anti-corporations stance make him sound like a left winger.

Many will try to blame this on Trump, but based off what he wrote, the democratic shift towards open borders and citizenship for illegal immigrants had a bigger affect on him than anything. That shift would've occurred regardless of who was in the white house. He said he felt this way before Trump even started running his campaign.

This is happening so often that we're starting to become numb to it. I'm not sure how we do it, but we need to find a way to stop people like this from buying firearms.
 
Can we not politicize this?
I know feelings run high here and everybody wants to take sides, but for real, the best post on this thread, and omg heaven forbid we acknowledge it, was Clubber's. There was not a hint of political bent to it, aside from the last line. But that was ok too.
He is absolutely right in everything he wrote.
There's a bigger picture here. Clubber nailed it. He's 100% right.
100%.
BEST POST EVER! :D
Thanks VZ
 
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