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13 year old brutally beaten by three 15 year olds on school bus
- Thread starter Clubber Lang
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Quote from Ricter:
That is really important work, I'm glad you're spending your days on it.
Good point Rictum.
Without proper documentation of skin color, this could have never been made about race.
Seems to me though, that this is simply the case of a narc being beat down. Was the victim in this instance not an informant?
When I was in adolescent school, I remember several occasions in which snitches got beat down by the drug dealers. I don't recall anyone ever making it about race.
Quote from DHOHHI:
I had parents who cared about what I did. I had rules as a kid. I knew there were consequences for idiotic behavior. These kids don't .....
DH,
What you say is a glaring example of much of what is wrong in today's society.
You were lucky to have parents that made sure you got off to a good start, and on the right foot, while these kids did not- yet you have the gumption to call these kids (the ones you teach) garbage?
Such great irony to hear trash calling others garbage.
Perhaps you should do yourself and your kids a favor and halt your mentoring, as you are clearly capable of teaching little more than than ignorance, and prejudice.
Quote from Hoofhearted:
DH,
What you say is a glaring example of much of what is wrong in today's society.
You were lucky to have parents that made sure you got off to a good start, and on the right foot, while these kids did not- yet you have the gumption to call these kids (the ones you teach) garbage?
Such great irony to hear trash calling others garbage.
Perhaps you should do yourself and your kids a favor and halt your mentoring, as you are clearly capable of teaching little more than than ignorance, and prejudice.
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Kindly point out to me where I stated, or even suggested, that the kids I mentor and tutor are "garbage".
Regarding the 3 kids on the bus who were kicking the crap out of the 13 year old I did state: " These 3 kids are garbage.". And they are. Any 15 year old kid knows right from wrong regardless of how crappy of an upbringing they've had.
So I should halt my mentoring/tutoring? Unfortunately I doubt the schools I volunteer at would be too happy. Not to toot my own horn but I've been cited a number of times for my contributions to 3 different schools here. And received recognition from the Superintendent and the school board for what I did at one school specifically. My biggest problem is having to turn down teachers who would like my help but 3 days/week and 5 hours per day is what I can offer now given I need to trade and make $$ also.
Classy that you refer to me as trash ..... you being someone who can't even read and comprehend what was posted.
Quote from DHOHHI:
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Kindly point out to me where I stated, or even suggested, that the kids I mentor and tutor are "garbage".
Regarding the 3 kids on the bus who were kicking the crap out of the 13 year old I did state: " These 3 kids are garbage.". And they are. Any 15 year old kid knows right from wrong regardless of how crappy of an upbringing they've had.
So I should halt my mentoring/tutoring? Unfortunately I doubt the schools I volunteer at would be too happy. Not to toot my own horn but I've been cited a number of times for my contributions to 3 different schools here. And received recognition from the Superintendent and the school board for what I did at one school specifically. My biggest problem is having to turn down teachers who would like my help but 3 days/week and 5 hours per day is what I can offer now given I need to trade and make $$ also.
Classy that you refer to me as trash ..... you being someone who can't even read and comprehend what was posted.
Stop worrying. Hoofheart is the real trash and he knows it. He's just another lunatic who's sadly allowed out among the free.
Quote from DHOHHI:
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Kindly point out to me where I stated, or even suggested, that the kids I mentor and tutor are "garbage".
My reading and comprehension skills are sound, as I will attempt to show you. Whether or not you will be able to see is another subject.
Quote from DHOHHI:
I've spent the last 12 years volunteering in schools and the last 7 in high poverty schools with 85 - 95% black kids. Of the 5 - 15% who are white or "other" ... they overall are better behaved and more focused on learning.
Here you are giving us a background which has you making scientific and statistical correlations between skin color and behavior patterns over the course of 12 years.
Quote from DHOHHI:
Now before anyone accuses me of being a racist I've mentored black kids.
Just a little FYI, mentoring black kids doesn't prove in any way that you are not racist.
Many child rapists have mentored the very children they have raped.
Quote from DHOHHI:
Next, statistically very few black parents ever come to parent-teacher conferences.
Here you are giving more scientific conclusions that has led you to believe you are qualified to stereotypically separate one race from another.
Quote from DHOHHI:
Teachers try to track down the [black]parents since most[black] parents have cell phone (likely freebies) but many of these parents don't seem to care about how their kid(s) are doing.
Here you are making a blatantly ignorant conjecture based on zero fact.
Your reasoning for presuming the cell phones were freebies is due to the skin color of the parents in which you are referring to.
This is just another example of your propensity to statistically correlate skin color with behaviors, attitudes, and resulting consequences.
Quote from DHOHHI:
I had a kid 2 years ago as a 5th grader who I bet will be dead or in prison before he's 17. He was a thug, didn't care about learning and had little, if any, respect for teachers or other adults.
Here you are making a prediction of where you believe one of your students (among others) will end up, due to his behavior issues, which soon after, you clearly attribute to a lack of parental guidance.
This particular student you refer to at the time being as a "thug", but as we shall clearly see, "garbage" is what you also have in mind.
For you to say this "thug" will quite soon end up in the morgue or in prison, means you would have to imagine the circumstance(s) which has you mentally placing him in either of those two facilities.
Please consider carefully the question in which I am about to ask you.
Can you honestly say that it would surprise you to learn, at some future point in time, that this 5th grade "thug" student of yours has committed an act very similar to the ones in which the 3 kids on video are committing?
Think about this.
Don't let an itchy tongue supersede an unconsidered thought.
If the answer to that question is yes, and that it would come as a surprise, then I will humbly recant my statement that you have referred to your own student(s) as garbage.
I will then gladly issue to you a formal and sincere apology for my misunderstanding of your judgement.
However, if the answer to that question is no, and in actuality, it is exactly the type of crime you would expect your student to commit, then you must also, by default, be referring to your own student(s) as garbage.
Quote from DHOHHI:
Bottom line IMO is that if parents continue to bring kids into the world that they have no means of supporting -- financially, emotionally or otherwise then the kids repeat the same mistakes of their parents.
Here you are showing some inkling of understanding where part of the problem lies.
You seem to have some basic understanding(and hopefully compassion) for some of these children, who have not been given the same hand in life that you point out the majority of the white kids at your school are being given.
You yourself have admitted to being one of those kids who was fortunate to have had adamant parents that took care of you throughout your younger years.
They (your parents) worked hard to give you the skills and means to live a happy existence in what can be a very tough world for many.
What is perhaps most telling, is that even though you show you have a pretty good understanding of why these kids are turning out the way they do, you choose to ignore the cause, and instead label these less than fortunate children as garbage.
This a rather large tell of the sanctimonious prejudice you have for many of your own students.
Quote from LEAPup:
Hoofheart is the real trash and he knows it.
And I thought you had me on ignore.
When you finally decide to address me, you say something i can't argue. lol. Go figure.
This is evidence that you actually have been hiding some intelligence this entire time. Expect to be called out next time you play dumbass.
Quote from Hoofhearted:
This a rather large tell of the sanctimonious prejudice you have for many of your own students. [/B]
No my analysis is not judging kids based on skin color. Of my 3 college degrees 2 are in math oriented disciplines so I know Stats pretty well. My conclusions are based on 12 years of study ... and based on FACTS. You have no clue as to how many hours I've spent at these schools and the data I've had access too as well.
And the answer to your question was "no". The kid in question was a thug who disrespected the teacher often. But he showed no violent tendencies. He'll be selling drugs most likely in a few years. And that's why I said he'll probably end up dead or in prison. There's a difference between "thug" and "garbage". Get yourself a Webster's and look up each word.
You likely need to study the facts more. There is a disproportionate percentage of crime committed by blacks based on the percentage of the population they make up. And that is what this topic/thread is about .. 3 black kids stomping a younger kid who apparently was white.
The FACT that I try to help these disadvantaged kids is something I'm a lot more proud of than you spouting off on a message board where you fail to understand what I wrote.
By the way ... point out to me where I called the kids I tutor/mentor "garbage".
I await your reply ......
Quote from Hoofhearted:
...who have not been given the same hand in life that you point out the majority of the white kids at your school are being given.
Maybe they are reaping what they sow? The Democrats have their deal with the Black voters: keep voting for us at the 95% level and we will do anything for you [as long as it doesn't lead to you becoming a productive middle class type of person who would vote Republican] while you allow us to do anything we want... I remember all the riots and burned cities of the past so do I care if these kids are not getting the same hand in life? They vote for what is essentially communism and they live in communistic shitholes. It's only a problem for me if I expose my white skin to them so I stay far away....
Quote from DHOHHI:
The kid in question was a thug who disrespected the teacher often. But he showed no violent tendencies. He'll be selling drugs most likely in a few years. And that's why I said he'll probably end up dead or in prison.
There's a difference between "thug" and "garbage". Get yourself a Webster's and look up each word.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/thug
Webster's definition
"thug": a brutal ruffian, or assassin.
Webster's examples for thug
~He was beaten and robbed by street thugs.
~the Mob boss regularly sent his thugs after people who were slow to pay their debts
Webster's has the kid sounding pretty much like the "garbage" you were referring to in the video.
Let me ask you, duh, How many degrees in BS have you attained?