100-300% Yearly Returns Discussion

[comagnum]

4,200% in 10 years is not 45% per year with componding LOL!
Some traders have had a few big years but linking up an average 420% fot 10 years in a row is still the best performance of a managed fund on record by a long shot.

To think it was no big deal or money just fell from trees in the 70s is very delusional.

 

[comagnum]

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I'm sure some traders in the 90's topped those growth rates -- even today, in modern times, I'm sure there are traders who have performed just as stellar

If your sure go find one! Any fund that did 1/10th of what the Quantum fund did would be a all over the news and on the cover of magazines with people taking out second mortgages and maxing out every credit card to partipate.

 

[lawrence-lugar]

If your sure go find one!
Any fund that did 1/10th of what the Quantum fund did would be a all over the news and on the cover of magazines with people taking out second mortgages and maxing out every credit card to partipate

....What you see, and hear, on the news....is just the tip of the iceberg;
The news can't cover Everyone -- and some people are rather private, they prefer to remain in the shadows.

That's a public fund, so...more or less...everyone knows about it -- and the media will cover/write about it more easily...as opposed to a normal, single, private individual, retail, at-home trader

Out of all of the online Brokerages out there....Some people ...Have to be in the Top 1% of Traders -- in the World,
or the Top 00.10% of Traders who are really killing it.

 

[neke]

4,200% in 10 years is not 45% per year with componding LOL!
Some traders have had a few big years but linking up an average 420% fot 10 years in a row is still the best performance of a managed fund on record by a long shot.

To think it was no big deal or money just fell from trees in the 70s is very delusional.

It was 4200% in 10 years. It is not 420% per year!

Otherwise, Buffet stock performance was: 1000 invested in 1964 was worth 11 million in 2014 (1100000% over 50 years or 22,000% per year) easily topping your figure

 

[i960]

It was 4200% in 10 years. It is not 420% per year!

Still that's like 230% a year if my calcs are right. Regardless of the debate here, those guys obviously have some skunkworks stuff going on - which is most likely why it's a closed fund.

On the other hand it also sounds too good to be true.

 

[comagnum]

Warren Buffets average annual percentage with compounding is 21.6% over a 50 year span. The Quantum funds annual average annual percenage over its 30 year span was 33%. The Quantum was the fund to be in since during its span it was significantly outperforming the Berkshire Hathway. Comparing the 50 year total net return to a 30 year fund is not a fair comparison but the average annual percetage increase certainly is.

 

[southall]

Still that's like 230% a year if my calcs are right.

Seems ETers dont seem to be able to do compound interest.

4200% is just like turning 10K into 430K.

Obviously Quantum had more than 10K.

But its not a huge return over 10 years.

Its about 45% a year with compounding (The 10th root of 43 is 1.45)

Many good traders on ET could get similar returns over 10 years with much smaller accounts.

 

[i960]

Seems ETers dont seem to be able to do compound interest.

Indeed. I screwed up and took the 10th root of 4200 not 42 and didn't catch it with a common sense filter. 2 orders of magnitude error is still okay between friends though, right?

 

[comagnum]

"Many good traders on ET could get similar returns over 10 years with much smaller accounts" Topic was beating the Rogers/Soros Quantum fund - this was and still is the best performing fund over a 10 year span.
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That is comical - if you think that it is so easy to outperform the Quantum fund. 96% of day traders fail and of the remaining only a sliver of the 4% that "make it" can support themselves for a few years - and these are the ones that can stomp the Quantum fund? LMAO!! Only the most over the top arrogant or very naive would think beating the best 10 year run of a fund on record is in reach of the retail day trader. Jim Rogers and George Soros in tandem at the top of their game and you think the typical under capitalized, way over leveraged day trader that can't even hold a position over night, that aims for tiny little moves but gets eaten alive by the HFTs and hedge funds can do that? LMAO!! The second runner up comes in at a 10 year ROR of 49% - he came from the floor starting in the 70's and swing trades global futures. Looks like a case of the way under capitalized living in a fantasy world - you voices must say "if I just leverage to the max and double my account every other month I can quit my job and become a millionaire by day trading my $20,000 account, it should be real easy" Better off going to a gamblers anonymous meeting to get a grip on reality.

 

[manstein]

5000USD account and trading 2 emini SP500?

Well, I do not think you would last much more than a couple of months if you trade often enough..

I mean, for a 100% loss

You can be lucky and win 200% in a year, but that does not happen often

And, of course, not with day trading

You have to trade longer frames...