10% unemployment but H1B visas accelerating

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52 pages on this thread...all in a circle.
A lot of people are looking in the wrong places for the solution. Think of this: everyone in the OWS crowd complains about huge corporations, but why expect the government to step into private territory? Very few Occupiers or anyone really will step up to the plate and demand effective boycotts of the corporations that they see as evil. Why?!?!
In combating unemployment, why not apply an effective boycott to companies that hire foreigners? Better yet, why not start your own company and employ Americans? I know, there is a huge lack of start up capital. All these stimulus programs...yet no NEW businesses. The government is so concerned with maintaining existing businesses, but there is very little help for those who actually want to do something effective and start their own business. Yes, many businesses fail, just as many people fail out of high school, college or at trading. If you really are capable of success, there is much more you can do than complain about the competition!

 

[EMRGLOBAL]

Please, real unemployment is 24% now. Wake the FUCK UP FOOLS.

H1B visa.....accelerating? Very few have "SKILLS" in this country anymore. So, companies are hiring and are now being forced to hired abroad.

This country is finished.

Better fend for yourself and not worry about trivial shit.

 

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Quote from EMRGLOBAL:

Please, real unemployment is 24% now. Wake the FUCK UP FOOLS.

H1B visa.....accelerating? Very few have "SKILLS" in this country anymore. So, companies are hiring and are now being forced to hired abroad.

This country is finished.

Better fend for yourself and not worry about trivial shit.

Defeatist attitudes from a capable people are why this country is finished. It seems like everyone with a brain stopped giving a shit which caused the 50% of people below average intelligence to elect these dimwitted and shortsighted politicians who perpetuate the problems with this country.

 

[gwb-trading]

Quote from Random.Capital:

H1Bs in tech, both SW and HW, make great money and aren't depressing anyone's wages.

Apparently someone missed the entire high school demand-supply curve economics lesson.

 

[Grandluxe]

pretty stupid don't you think. There are millions and millions of illegal immigrants every year and instead of focusing on that, you want to close a legal immigration path that only affects 65k people

 

[Random.Capital]

Quote from gwb-trading:

Apparently someone missed the entire high school demand-supply curve economics lesson.

You can disagree if you like. I actually hire people - in fact I'm hiring right now. And even though the unemployment rate is relatively high, it's still bloody hard to find decent people.

H1Bs are a non-impact on wages.

They're also part and parcel of a truly free market system.

 

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Quote from Random.Capital:

You can disagree if you like. I actually hire people - in fact I'm hiring right now. And even though the unemployment rate is relatively high, it's still bloody hard to find decent people.

H1Bs are a non-impact on wages.

They're also part and parcel of a truly free market system.

Interesting. Yeah, as a recent college graduate, I would say most of my peers are drug addicted, self indulgent fools who barely made it through their English programs lol

 

[El Guapo]

Interesting. I hire tech people as well.

I hire quality and pay for it. My clients recognize quality and demand it; read pay for it.

I taken over and saved many projects from Tata, Wipro and their ilk, mainly because of the rampant incompetence. Business is doing great and I highly value and reward my employees. We're unique and understand that not all can operate at the level we do, however its clear that there will always be a maket for high quality.

Quote from Random.Capital:

You can disagree if you like. I actually hire people - in fact I'm hiring right now. And even though the unemployment rate is relatively high, it's still bloody hard to find decent people.

H1Bs are a non-impact on wages.

They're also part and parcel of a truly free market system.

 

[Random.Capital]

Quote from El Guapo:

I hire quality and pay for it.

Same.

We're inventing the future. I don't have room for passengers on this train. Most people who come in for interviews demonstrate within 5 minutes that they are not very good. Which should be expected - most people in a normal distribution will look decidedly average.

And that's the problem - there was a time when IT was new enough that being "average" was good enough to secure solid employment - but those days are now gone.

At least the autoworkers had the good sense to unionize and protect their turf for several decades beyond usefulness...in the end they proved smarter than the IT crowd...

 

[gwb-trading]

Quote from Grandluxe:

pretty stupid don't you think. There are millions and millions of illegal immigrants every year and instead of focusing on that, you want to close a legal immigration path that only affects 65k people

Actually there are many different types of Visas that are being abused to bring cheap tech workers into the U.S.; H1-B with the 65K limit is only one type of Visa. Start counting the numbers of Visa workers brought in to the U.S. if you build a total over 10 years. Yes - it is easily over 1M+

The millions of illegal immigrants are not taking IT jobs; so it does not really impact the tech sector.