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Quote from CFerret:

90, 95, or even 99% failure rate is GREAT news for serious trader, simply because it's a clear proof that trading is a serious and very profitable business and as such, only few can grasp it well...


You are correct about that, it is great news for those of us that are serious about it.

I trade semi-fulltime, meaning I have a job that pays a decent amount of money and doesn't take much time or effort, so I continue to accept their paycheck. I have about 20 guys that report to me and they will always bitch when there are problems. I always tell them the problems are great. Thats why the company continues to pay us for this easy job. Its very similar to trading, if it was easy and anyone could do it, they wouldn't need me.
 
Quote from cabletrader:

I'm no psychologist but that's human nature I guess, it's more comfortable to blame the market/broker than accept responsibility, it always has to be someone else's fault. It also explains the resentment some people have for those who can succeed, they feel it reflects badly on them and their abilities.


Why take responsibility when you can blame your mistakes on others?

People will not accept the blame and then get mad when they don't succeed. Its crazy.
 
Quote from cabletrader:

I replied to your post in a clear, coherent, and polite manner.

As I suspected, you cannot support your opinion with logic or reason otherwise you would have done so.

Here are the posts again in case you need them:
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I was referring to this post - unless this is your example of "clear, coherent and polite".

Quote from cabletrader:

I doubt you would recognize truth if it jumped up and bit you on your arse!

I don't suppose we can expect a coherent reply to the answers I gave you in that post? Care to try and justify the nonsense you wrote? No, I ddn't think so.
 
Quote from Ivanovich:

I was referring to this post - unless this is your example of "clear, coherent and polite".

Ivanovich, if you put half as much effort into answering a post as you do avoiding answering we may get a debate going, that's what forums are for last time I checked.

Don't worry, if you can't support your point of view with logical and reasoned argument, then you can't.

Cheers

ps Are we done now or do you want to carry on this pointless exchange :confused:
 
Quote from rwk:

My bad... This is thread is part of the Forex Forum, and I neglected to make that distinction.

It is my impression that with forex it is as easy to go short as long. For that matter, isn't short USDJPY equivalent to long JPYUSD? The only difference is the base currency.

I believe financial futures work as well short as long too. With commodities though, it is possible to have shortages that tend to last longer than surpluses, so long strategies may work better especially for longer term traders. Stocks are a lot easier to short without the uptick rule, but there still must be borrowable shares. But I think the problems of shorting stocks profitably goes beyond the problem of executing the trade. I am primarily a stock trader, and I would like to find a good shorting strategy.

Exactly.
That is probably one of the biggest differences between forex and the other markets.
Since your positions are always involving a pair, you are always long one, and short the other.
The currency futures and options are all USD based, so they are all reversed, as in your example with JPY/USD.
For anyone accustomed to the usual forex pairs, it is different.
It also makes it much more challenging to take a non-USD position, such as GBP/JPY, with futures or options!
Until last week, I did not know how it could be done, but after finding out how, it is an interesting new twist, to say the least.
 
Quote from OddTrader:

LOL

Nice edit. LOL. My rationale for saying that is this. I have entered more trades based on simpl indicators and proceeded to grab 40-50p pips then the issues slow down and the price action (especially in Forex) lulls you to sleep, next thing you know you're back to zero.

It wasn't until I started keeping a DETAILED journal, to see what I let slip through for each currency, that I developed modifications to my system and rules. Like certain pairs I have to profit target else I'll just be a commission payer.

Other pairs I dont hold overnight and yet others... You get the idea... Each pair has it's own personality. So grabbing 10 pips is easy.. (To Me.) Keeping it was the problem.
 
Quote from cabletrader:


....quite obvious you're not using any stops whatsoever... - Obvious, how? Surely 5% risk means just that, 5% risk! Stops were used. Trading without protecting equity in some way is never a good idea.

Max drawdown and trade duration - 5%, and trades were open until they were closed, usually within a day but obviously no longer than a week.

Win rate suggests gambling - Win:lose is a recognized way of expressing, well, the win to lose ratio. What would you prefer wins to be called? Gains? Profitable trades? I'm here to please and will call them whatever you like.

Anyone remember Skalpz/Coinz - Yes, but how is that relevant?

When you originally posted %5 risk on each trade, you didn't specify whether that meant each trade was no more than 5% of your equity, or whether you allowed the trade to go 5% into the negative, etc. You merely said "5% risk". Which is why I made the assumption that you did not use stops. I still find it difficult to believe (putting it lightly) that you had a 97% success rate with over 100 trades and you never went more than 5% down on any of your trades. I think there are many, many traders on this site who would agree.

As for the "win/loss" comment, I agree it's semantics. But most gamblers tend to refer to them as win/lose, where as most traders refer to it as "profit/loss".

Additionally, I brought up Coinz to illustrate a comparison as he would go long or short without stops, and his trades would go hundreds, sometimes thousands of pips into the negative, but he'd hold out waiting for them to come back. Eventually (sometimes a year or so later) they would, and he would call that a winning trade, not paying attention to the opportunity lost during that time or the risk associated with it. What you claimed sounded amazingly similar to that philosophy. Again, with your limited explanation (at that point) of your 5% risk.

Lastly, conversations like this are best done with explaining and debate, not insult. You reverted to insult, and then you did again with your last snide remark (which was an attempt to divert the conversation back again). This might be considered good form on forums such as Moneytech, old chap, but this is a pretty decent forex forum. I'd like to think we can refrain from such wastes of space among people who call themselves traders.
 
I made the assumption [/B]


Not to get in your fight, but this is a key phrase you used which I think offends.

I personally would rather have all the facts before assuming. I, however am not perfect at this so I am more than willing to admit my blunder and apologize. I am certain it is appreciated that you acknowledged this.

Perfection is reserved for the dead, for they an make no mistakes.

Finally debate is debate, forum doesn't matter. Gentlemanly debate gets heated and mellows out. Thuggish/Cowboy debate ends with a gun fired. I am certain we are all gentlemen. So the gun of our tongues do need to be muted a bit. I know I need help in that area. I think we all need to tone the insults down a bit... Though, they are FUN to read. LOL.

Now back to our regular programming.
 
Quote from Ivanovich:

When you originally posted %5 risk on each trade, you didn't specify whether that meant each trade was no more than 5% of your equity, or whether you allowed the trade to go 5% into the negative, etc. You merely said "5% risk". Which is why I made the assumption that you did not use stops. I still find it difficult to believe (putting it lightly) that you had a 97% success rate with over 100 trades and you never went more than 5% down on any of your trades. I think there are many, many traders on this site who would agree.

As for the "win/loss" comment, I agree it's semantics. But most gamblers tend to refer to them as win/lose, where as most traders refer to it as "profit/loss".

Additionally, I brought up Coinz to illustrate a comparison as he would go long or short without stops, and his trades would go hundreds, sometimes thousands of pips into the negative, but he'd hold out waiting for them to come back. Eventually (sometimes a year or so later) they would, and he would call that a winning trade, not paying attention to the opportunity lost during that time or the risk associated with it. What you claimed sounded amazingly similar to that philosophy. Again, with your limited explanation (at that point) of your 5% risk.

Lastly, conversations like this are best done with explaining and debate, not insult. You reverted to insult, and then you did again with your last snide remark (which was an attempt to divert the conversation back again). This might be considered good form on forums such as Moneytech, old chap, but this is a pretty decent forex forum. I'd like to think we can refrain from such wastes of space among people who call themselves traders.

% risk is usually accepted as meaning % of account equity at risk and not a % adverse move in price against a position, I automatically assumed a trader would know that, my mistake. I should have explained it better for people who aren't familiar with trading and the terminology used.

If you find it difficult to believe that not one of the 113 trades went beyond a 5% equity drawdown (risk) then please feel free to check each and every trade, you can then satisfy yourself that was in fact the case.

Win:lose and profit & loss (P/L) are two totally different things. Win:lose is the ratio of winning trades to losing trades, whereas P/L is the profit or loss on positions.

I lost track and interest of what Coinz (and his other aliases!) was and wasn't doing strategy-wise so I can't comment, but again if you look at each trade you will see that the strategy used had no similarity, amazing or otherwise.

Lastly, conversations like this are best done with explaining and debate, I agree, but that's not achieved by jumping to incorrect conclusions. No-one minds someone not knowing or understanding something, we all started out that way I expect, but if a reader doesn't understand something then it's always better to ask rather than assume and post irrelevant and inaccurate comments.
 
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