'10 best countries to retire to' - from UK

[Ghost of Cutten]

Quote from Martinghoul:

Why would you say such a thing?

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Best place to retire is where you know people, where there is rule of law and reasonable freedoms. When you are old, you can't do as much yourself, so you are much more vulnerable when you get sick, when you don't speak the language, and so on.

UK has healthcare free at point of delivery, is a pretty safe country, and you get a state pension regardless of how broke you are. It's a pretty decent place to retire. Lol at retiring in a 3rd world country, that is even crazier than working in a 3rd world country.

The best places to retire are the same as the best places to live - Western Europe, Japan (if you are Japanese), North America, Australia/New Zealand etc.

 

[oldtime]

Quote from Martinghoul:

Why would you say such a thing?

we have a long history of leaving England, and that's just to get to the United States, and I aint even talking about the good places.

 

[SUPERIOR1]

Quote from d08:

Because of the intrusive government, although Europe has become equally bad in this respect. US gun violence is another thing but again, Europe is catching up slowly.

US government has become more liberal, however it does not come close to comparing to the EU or Brittan. Have you seen some of the almost socialist things going on in France, and the massive taxes in Brittan? US is still the best place to start a company, along side Brittan.

Note that I love EU, Brittan and USA-not condemning on any one in particular.

Quote from ehsmama:

US gun voilence is second only to Iraq now

This is not even close to true. I guess you just like pounding on the US based on what you read in Daily Mail. Have you ever been to Russia? If you lived there, there is a good chance you would be dead by now. US is safer than any country, aside from Canada, Australia and Brittan. The EU even has bad problems these days.

 

[Martinghoul]

Yeah, I am definitely with GoC on this, although climate surely has to be a meaningful consideration (which definitely doesn't help the UK). I don't think UK is all that bad. I was wondering more about why you would say that the UK is a bad place to be born.

 

[oldtime]

Quote from Martinghoul:

Yeah, I am definitely with GoC on this, although climate surely has to be a meaningful consideration (which definitely doesn't help the UK). I was wondering more about why you would say that the UK is a bad place to be born.

well Martin, you know I like you, especially when just minutes after the downgrade you suggested buying more bonds, but all I can ask is how would you convince any American that England is actually a better place to immigrate to or retire?

 

[Martinghoul]

Quote from oldtime:
well Martin, you know I like you, especially when just minutes after the downgrade you suggested buying more bonds, but all I can ask is how would you convince any American that England is actually a better place to immigrate to or retire?

I wouldn't suggest anyone to retire in the UK, unless you're into rain, clouds and all that stuff. Personally, my dream retirement destination is a place with a nice sandy beach, cold drinks and sun all year round. Sorry if this is all a bit too common.

However, living in the UK is a different kettle of fish. I don't think it's really all that bad. The infrastructure is very decent, you're very close to many really cool places and people are generally rather nice. But, most importantly, the best thing of all is the British sense of humor. The more time I spend away from the US, the more I appreciate how, in contrast to the Americans, the Brits refuse to take themselves seriously.

 

[oldtime]

Quote from Martinghoul:

I wouldn't suggest anyone to retire in the UK, unless you're into rain, clouds and all that stuff. Personally, my dream retirement destination is a place with a nice sandy beach, cold drinks and sun all year round. Sorry if this is all a bit too common.

However, living in the UK is a different kettle of fish. I don't think it's really all that bad. The infrastructure is very decent, you're very close to many really cool places and people are generally rather nice. But, most importantly, the best thing of all is the British sense of humor. The more time I spend away from the US, the more I appreciate how, in contrast to the Americans, the Brits refuse to take themselves seriously.

That sunshine gets pretty old pretty fast. Personally I like a good rainy day, and we haven't had many of them this year here in the midwest.

I lived in California for a while. Man that place is a trip. It rains everyday, I mean every single day for three months, and then it never, I mean never rains again for nine months.

 

[cdcaveman]

Gun violence is exaggerated in us because of the crazy liberal media




People who raid theaters here run countries elsewhere

 

[oldtime]

Quote from cdcaveman:

Gun violence is exaggerated in us because of the crazy liberal media




People who raid theaters here run countries elsewhere

the funny thing is, back in the days of the wild west you had to check your guns in with the sheriff before entering town, because they realized that money and whiskey and gambling and women and guns didn't mix.

 

[d08]

Quote from SUPERIOR1:

US government has become more liberal, however it does not come close to comparing to the EU or Brittan. Have you seen some of the almost socialist things going on in France, and the massive taxes in Brittan? US is still the best place to start a company, along side Brittan.

Note that I love EU, Brittan and USA-not condemning on any one in particular.

This is not even close to true. I guess you just like pounding on the US based on what you read in Daily Mail. Have you ever been to Russia? If you lived there, there is a good chance you would be dead by now. US is safer than any country, aside from Canada, Australia and Brittan. The EU even has bad problems these days.

I was thinking in respect to people paying multiple year salaries because of downloading a few songs off torrents, you might think the RIAA/MPAA people are right but the power they hold over the court system is a good sign of fairness/intrusiveness.
Another thing is taxation based on citizenship, rather than residency. US is the only western country to do this I think.
I'm getting off-topic though, those things don't matter for the average retiree but do describe the country in general. Yet you said "socialist" and for a retiree, that doesn't matter at all, in fact retirees benefit in a socialist setting.

Europe is much bigger than UK and France (UK isn't even considered to be Europe by many). Eastern Europe is pretty big, not including Russia, and entirely comparable for retiring - in fact many retirees from Northern Europe and Germany already reside in Eastern Europe.

If you look at intentional homicide rate around the world, US has a really bad ranking - there are loads of countries doing better and not just Australia, Canada and UK.

Don't get me wrong, US has a lot of positives. It's the best country in the world for consumers and the still the land of opportunity, these are some important points - although the second one is irrelevant for retirees.