1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

Yes those two points are enough.

There is a third concern about the instability that High Frequency Trading is causing...well everyone is concerned.....and the public only hears of the worst flash crashes....

But the FTT of course is not the correct solution.

Simply make it illegal for any public exchange to allow the market flow data to be available to some before others, not even nanoseconds.

And, require that the exchanges themselves may not trade on their own exchange, or perhaps not trade at all.

By keeping the HFT robots outside the exchanges things will get better again in this area.

A very simple solution to this problem and easy to understand.
 
Quote from Redshak:


There is a third concern about the instability that High Frequency Trading is causing...well everyone is concerned.....and the public only hears of the worst flash crashes....

But the FTT of course is not the correct solution.


The solution is already enacted in Securities Law but not enforced.

Anything that amounts to price manipulation and information dissemination interference is already illegal.
 
Quote from tomdavis:



2. The most effective way to tax the banks is to directly tax the banks without shooting innocent bystanders (man on the street).


Exactly...don't use a shotgun when a rifle is more effective at hitting your target.

IMO, this should be a central issue for traders in planning any communications offensive if and when things get serious.

There is simply no way that traders are going to overcome public resolve that's driven by an emotional issue.

If you're going to complain to Joe Sixpack or his congressman that you'll pay more in trading costs as taxes, he'll applaud that, not feel sorry for you.

Thus, the best thing to do is empathize with those who feel wronged (didn't most of us suffer as well?!), and invite them to target specific institutions in such a way that wrongs are most efficiently righted, and the innocent don't suffer.
 
Quote from Redshak:

Yes, a better tax is a tax on banks assets or revenue.


Another good discussion point with the US public is to say...

"Let Europe experiment with the FTT. If after 3 years it is successful in meeting the revenue goals without hurting the economy, THEN we can consider it in the USA".

...Don't even hint that such a madness may be successful...the USA must never follow Europe, it wants to COMPETE with Europe at every level.

"Along with the UK, the USA would be largely advantaged from Europe's ill-considered ftt experiment. Our economy would indeed benefit from European business relocations. Europe's loss would be our gain." (a fair blend of fact and fear)

Whenever we shoot down a (publicly perceived yet fairy-tale money raising policy) it's necessary to succinctly and credibly switch audience minds by detailing an alternative, stable, reliable and job-protection policy - in this case FAT, direct tax on bank profits.
 
http://gmi.rbcis.com/rt/GSS.nsf/news/80E7D48B7856A6CB85257A780035378F?opendocument



"We have been advised that the Spanish government is preparing a draft bill with the intention to introduce Financial Transaction Tax (FTT). If this is put into force, the proposal could come into effect January 1, 2013.

We understand that the proposal would impact:
The acquisition of shares as well as rights, stock options and warrants
High frequency trades on Spanish shares when exceeding a certain percentage of the daily volume executed on the stock
The acquisition of Credit Default Swaps (CDS) on sovereign debt issued by an European country except in the case of coverage trades

Possible exemptions may include:
Initial public offerings
Rights or bonus issues
Clearing houses activity and Central Depository activity
Market maker activity
Trades between companies of the same group
Repurchase agreements
Acquisition of convertible bonds

The potential FTT rate has not yet been confirmed, however there is currently a possibility of two rates
one for the acquisition if shares which could amount to 0.2% of the trade volume
second rate for trading and CDS

It is assumed the tax would be collected by brokers who would report this to the Ministry of the Treasury and Public Administration and request information to be sent to the Spanish Central Depository (Iberclear) to control transactions.

Impact
The Spanish government are preparing a draft bill with the intention to introduce Financial Transaction Tax (FTT). If this is enacted, the proposal may be effective January 1, 2013."
 
Quote from FightTheFuture:

3 hours ago, there were 3 posts including mine. Those posts were anti-FTT.

Those posts have been censored. Deleted.

This makes the second time on that site that they have deleted anti-FTT posts.

So, i try again.


Is America Broke? Not With a Robin Hood Tax!!!

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...-oGgBg&usg=AFQjCNHowsd0iY_1WByWfTeZUNynDIlpXg

Yup, free speech is alive and well. Garbage that stirs up the extremes of humanity and gets an ambassador killed must be protected at all costs. Reasoned arguments relating to FTT get censored and nobody cares but the people who are silenced.

Tell me this makes sense to you, because it does not make any sense to me.
 
Ready for Action? Don't sit around worrying,...do something...you will feel better....

:-)

I could use a web designer/webmaster's help to get two websites launched. These will come up faster if someone knows the technology. I am using SiteSpinner, which is probably adequate for the need:

Websites:

1) Traders: Alert, Call to Action

2) Public: YOUTUBE VIDEOS: Short and Concise

A) Main Street Pays the Full FTT
B) Tax on Banks profits or assets will work, FTT will not
C) Restore Stability to the markets: End High Freq Trades

My intent is to establish a LLC, or some non-profit entity that can receive donations from the big guys at the exchanges and brokerages.

Then use these funds to create focused media to counteract the emotional propaganda of the FTT proponents. And use the funds for targeted public relations, and if possible, direct lobbying.

Any help with the many tasks to get this in the air is appreciated. Once it is going it will have momentum.

Once the basic web sites are up, the entity is established and open, then we can approach donors.

Remember:

Many hands make light work.

The Turtle wins the Race

The long journey starts with the first step.

Build it and they will come.

Time is short.

WE CAN DO IT!
 
Occupy Wall Street Turns One | New York News

The first anniversary of the Occupy Wall Street movement is this week. In addition to today's concert in downtown Manhattan, there will be a march tomorrow morning. ACT UP will be there . Via press release: ACT UP NY (AIDS Coalition To Unleash Power) announced plans to endorse the Sept 17 demonstration celebrating Occupy Wall St.’s first anniversary. Members of ACT UP will join OWS in front of Trinity Church at the corner of Broadway and Wall St at 7AM on Monday calling for a Financial Transaction Tax to Tax Wall St, End AIDS. From 1914 to 1966 in the US, a Financial Transaction Tax (or FTT) was used to calm the stock market and generate funds for much-needed services. Today, economists estimate that a .5% tax on the financial speculation of Wall St institutions could generate hundreds of billions of dollars. AIDS activists are frustrated by the recent lack of attention dedicated to the AIDS crisis by the major political parties. “After watching the Republican and Democratic National Conventions and not hearing AIDS mentioned...


Im not picking up on anything lately other than the same groups out there repeating them selves.
 
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ro...ntroduction-of-robin-hood-tax-bill-2012-09-17



NEW YORK, Sept. 17, 2012 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- The U.S. Robin Hood Tax Campaign today applauded the introduction of a bill to establish a tax on Wall Street speculation. Introduced by Rep. Keith Ellison, HR 6411, the Inclusive Prosperity Act, would raise up to $350 billion in annual revenues to breathe new life into Main Street communities across America, as well as international health, sustainable prosperity and environmental programs.

The legislation embodies the Robin Hood Tax, a 0.5% tax on the trading of stocks, 50 cents on every $100 of trades, and lesser rates on trading in bonds, derivatives and currencies. It marks the return of a sales tax on financial transactions in place from 1914 to 1966 and targets the high-risk, high-speed trading that dominates the markets.

"The American public provided hundreds of billions to bailout Wall Street during the global fiscal crisis yet bore the brunt of the crisis with lost jobs and reduced household wealth," said Rep. Ellison in a press statement. "A financial transaction tax protects our financial markets from speculation and provides the revenue needed to invest in the education, health and communities of the American people."

The legislation's goal is to raise meaningful tax revenue dedicated to low- and moderate-income families by strengthening the social safety net and by expanding investments to protect health, rebuilding infrastructure and creating good-paying jobs. The tax is also to target international needs, including AIDS treatment, research and prevention and for other critical assistance.

"Congressman Ellison is showing great leadership for our country," said Jean Ross, RN, co-president of National Nurses United. "HR-6411 is a critical step to generate the revenue for the healing and recovery our Main Street communities across the nation so desperately need. From coast to coast, nurses, health care, AIDS, environmental, labor, faith community and other community activists have come together calling for a Robin Hood tax so that Wall Street will help pay to reverse the damage its reckless behavior caused to our economy."

"Last summer, scientists proved that we can actually end the AIDS pandemic if we just scale up our investment in treatment and prevention programs," said Jennifer Flynn, managing director of Health GAP (Global Access Project). "But when we go to Congress, all we hear about are budget cuts. We need to increase revenue and the Robin Hood Tax is the best of all proposals to do just that."

"This tiny tax on Wall Street will make our economy more stable and more fair. The U.S. once had a Robin Hood Tax and we were better off for it, it's time to bring it back," said Liz Ryan Murray, policy director for National People's Action.

"In its essentials, the idea of a financial market transaction tax is simple," said economist Robert Pollin, co-director, Political Economy Research Institute (PERI), University of Massachusetts-Amherst. "It would mean that financial market traders would pay a small fee to the government every time they purchased any financial market instrument, including all stock, bond, options, futures, and swap trades. This would be the equivalent of sales taxes that Americans have long paid every time they buy an automobile, shirt, baseball glove, airline ticket, or pack of chewing gum, eat at a restaurant, or have their hair cut."

The Robin Hood Tax also helps to control the volume of speculation engulfing the financial markets, where risky bets are causing instability and sidelining billions in funds that might otherwise be directed to a productive economy. And the sales tax assists in curtailing speculation in food and fuel markets, where bets on these essentials are causing spikes in prices and serious shortages.

The introduction of H.R. 6411 came on the eve of the one year Anniversary of Occupy Wall Street. Robin Hood Tax campaigners today joined Occupy activists at a labor solidarity event at Zuccotti Park in New York City, and then carried the message to offices of financial institutions to demand imposition of the Robin Hood Tax.

SOURCE Robin Hood Tax Campaign

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