1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

Market reaction seems to indicate that people believe the eurozone big 4 are getting their act together on an EU TARP-like formal plan for bank bailouts, as recommend by the U.S. administration all along. TARP worked in the U.S. and hopefully it will work in the EU too, so they hope.

Merkel and Schaueble seem to be listening to the cry for solidarity, and they are being softened up by relentless media and other attacks. Yesterday, the media reported that Merkel agreed to allowing the use of current bailout funds ESM, EFSF for bank loans or "capitalization" - is it debt or preferred equity? - and got their wish to have the ECB overseeing the bank and sovereign bailouts.

While that's very short of debt mutualization, which Germans won't agree to, it is a solid move in the direction of a TARP-like formal plan. Direct capitalization of banks should take the pressure of Italy and Spain's sovereign-debt funding spreads, which is what Monti cried out for. If this works, Monti will surely cooperate on EC9/10 FTT.

Unfortunately, this news of an agreed-upon TARP-like plan does not bode well for those who do not want to see EC9/10 FTT move forward - and that's us.

The big 4 all support EC9/10 FTT and it is shaping up to be an integral part of the TARP-like plan - the required fiscal union piece. The big 3 (France, Italy and Spain) seem to be leaning pretty good now on Germany, and Merkel has German socialists nipping at her heels, too. Media reports they agreed yesterday that EU bazooka funds may now be used to capitalize banks, so the EU will want tax revenue to pay the bill and for their operations. If not directly to an EU center - which isn't worked out yet - or to the individual countries passing FTT. That's a big problem to still be worked out.

If they pay EC9/10 FTT to an EU center, it benefits the UK, too, plus the UK wins extra business by not having FTT on banks - who are exempt from UK stamp duty. That's why the big 4 are so upset with the UK.

We can expect more infighting over EC9/10 proposals, if the FTT explodes in London, and who gets to keep the FTT revenues. Individual countries, or the EU and which body in the EU. There is no EC9/10 government per see. I am guessing, France will keep it's FTT revenues and others will follow for the time being, rather than slow down EC9/10 FTT proposals or enactment.

In general, the FTT proponents want banks to pay FTT, to pay back government for the bailouts.

My main point is that if an EU or eurozone banking union continues to advance with this TARP-like breakthrough on formality and execution, the big 4 will want a fiscal union tax plan formalized, too.
 
Quote from Robert A. Green:

Market reaction seems to indicate that people believe the eurozone big 4 are getting their act together on an EU TARP-like formal plan for bank bailouts, as recommend by the U.S. administration all along. TARP worked in the U.S. and hopefully it will work in the EU too, so they hope.

Merkel and Schaueble seem to be listening to the cry for solidarity, and they are being softened up by relentless media and other attacks. Yesterday, the media reported that Merkel agreed to allowing the use of current bailout funds ESM, EFSF for bank loans or "capitalization" - is it debt or preferred equity? - and got their wish to have the ECB overseeing the bank and sovereign bailouts.

While that's very short of debt mutualization, which Germans won't agree to, it is a solid move in the direction of a TARP-like formal plan. Direct capitalization of banks should take the pressure of Italy and Spain's sovereign-debt funding spreads, which is what Monti cried out for. If this works, Monti will surely cooperate on EC9/10 FTT.

Unfortunately, this news of an agreed-upon TARP-like plan does not bode well for those who do not want to see EC9/10 FTT move forward - and that's us.

The big 4 all support EC9/10 FTT and it is shaping up to be an integral part of the TARP-like plan - the required fiscal union piece. The big 3 (France, Italy and Spain) seem to be leaning pretty good now on Germany, and Merkel has German socialists nipping at her heels, too. Media reports they agreed yesterday that EU bazooka funds may now be used to capitalize banks, so the EU will want tax revenue to pay the bill and for their operations. If not directly to an EU center - which isn't worked out yet - or to the individual countries passing FTT. That's a big problem to still be worked out.

If they pay EC9/10 FTT to an EU center, it benefits the UK, too, plus the UK wins extra business by not having FTT on banks - who are exempt from UK stamp duty. That's why the big 4 are so upset with the UK.

We can expect more infighting over EC9/10 proposals, if the FTT explodes in London, and who gets to keep the FTT revenues. Individual countries, or the EU and which body in the EU. There is no EC9/10 government per see. I am guessing, France will keep it's FTT revenues and others will follow for the time being, rather than slow down EC9/10 FTT proposals or enactment.

In general, the FTT proponents want banks to pay FTT, to pay back government for the bailouts.

My main point is that if an EU or eurozone banking union continues to advance with this TARP-like breakthrough on formality and execution, the big 4 will want a fiscal union tax plan formalized, too.

--- I heard an interesting analysis this morning on the news. One of the Euro analysts said the capital they're committing won't be nearly enough and that they'll be be back at the table having this same conversation again six months from now.

--Also, what do you mean when you say: "if the FTT explodes in London"?
 
Quote from tomdavis:

--- I heard an interesting analysis this morning on the news. One of the Euro analysts said the capital they're committing won't be nearly enough and that they'll be be back at the table having this same conversation again six months from now.

--Also, what do you mean when you say: "if the FTT explodes in London"?

Sorry Tom, I knew I should have added "if FTT explodes in London based on a residency principal, so the FTT has extra-territorial reach to London and other non-FTT adopting countries."
 
Germany keeps pushing:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...tion-tax-tied-to-esm-bank-aid-focus-says.html

Germany Wants Transaction Tax Tied to ESM Bank Aid, Focus Says

Germany wants to tie aid for banks from the European Stability Mechanism to a financial transaction tax that would be used to fund the permanent rescue facility, reducing the risk for German taxpayers, Focus reported, without saying how it obtained the information.

Only banks in countries that apply the tax would qualify for direct aid, according to the report.
 
This is what I was getting at in my last post above. Connecting FTT to bailout funds. Those countries expecting to need bailout help will probably support FTT. But, can the big 4 dictate these rules on the ESM? This approach was floated many months ago.

Same old threat from Merkel. She insists countries support the fiscal and banking compacts or union, or be left off the map for calling the bailout fire department.
 
Quote: "The net effect for the 401(k) holder is a wash. She pays twice as much per trade, but does half the trading, meaning that total trading costs are unchanged.

The people for whom it is not a wash is the Wall Street crew. If trading is cut in half, then their revenue is cut in half, even assuming that 100 percent of the trading costs are passed on to investors."

I'm not clear on the mechanics of the 401(k), but this implies that trading less has no effect on the value of the 401(k)?

Halving trades reduces "Wall Street's" revenues by half but makes no difference to the performance of the 401(k) according to Dean Baker. So he thinks that folks who make trading decisions for 401(k) accounts trade just for fun?
 
Bond Rift Divides Merkel Coalition - WSJ.com
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303933404577502780260213476.html

Seems like Merkel may be getting ready to dump FDP from her coalition and go with the Social Democrats for the next election in 2013. Probably, a defensive move.

FDP has held Merkel back from FTT, euro bonds, and mutualizing euro debt. Social Democrats are pushing for FTT and an EU banking and fiscal union.

This continues the trend I wrote about in my past two posts. Germany is holding out the euro bonds for their fiscal union. FTT is falling into place as the EU fiscal tax to pay for the related_
EU banking union - code word for bailouts and debt mutualization._

Not a good trend. This could all happen by 2013. Can they manage the crisis to implement this plan over time, as it takes time and lots of cooperation? Plenty of things can go wrong and not make these unions happen.

Germany won't walk away, it's dreamed of EU leadership and unification for over a century. They don't quit.
 
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