1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

Quote from tomdavis:

Vestager and her party are huge supporters of the FTT. They will end up implementing the tax. If you read her last "reconsider" quote carefully, that pretty much says it all. If Merkel tells Vestager that "problems are solved," Vestager will say , "Okay, we accept the FTT."

Yes I agree. I didn't like her quote about reconsidering either. Whatever ends up happening it should be interesting, lol.

My view is still that the ftt won't see the light of day in the US but thats just my view:)


-Guru
 
Quote from listedguru:

Yes I agree. I didn't like her quote about reconsidering either. Whatever ends up happening it should be interesting, lol.

My view is still that the ftt won't see the light of day in the US but thats just my view:)


-Guru

As long as Republicans maintain control of at least one chamber of Congress, the FTT won't happen here. If Democrats take over both the House and Senate with a Democratic President, the FTT will be in play.
 
Quote from Robert A. Green:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/03/world/europe/future-in-mind-europeans-plan-for-less-unanimity.html

As European Union Expands, Unanimity Breaks Down - NYTimes.com

Happy New Year. Just back from vacation.

This article lays out the EU-proscribed plan to counter a veto for unanimous consent, specifically for the FTT. First generate a veto, and next push for passage in all 27 EU member nations. After failure, the EU treaty-built-in mechanism is to try and pass the proposal in 9 or more EU members, and hope it snowballs with extraterritorial reach.

Unanimous consent among 27 members is close to impossible, so they need to test this 9 or more governing mechanism sooner than later - like now - and they seem ready to try it on FTT.

Even amendments to the U.S. constitution only requires 85% of state voting - not unanimous consent - from my recollection. The EU-governing process is as much in crisis as the underlying problems, so they will push to get this working soon. I don't see how they will stop this attempt at this point. If not FTT, then what else?

They probably have the 9 or more vote count already for FTT, and knew it when they forced the expected UK veto.

Sorry to be negative, especially after a nice relaxing vacation in Hawaii. Aloha. I'll catch up on the news more soon and hopefully find more optimistic ground.

Germany and France can adopt FTT on their own but that misses the point. They are trying to force EU tax integration and coordination with federal policy, rather than diverging member nation policies. Let's hope they can't get the 9 or more on FTT.

Excerpt from the article:

French and German policy makers see this as a “Robin Hood tax,” a way of discouraging speculative transactions and raising cash from the bankers who provoked the financial crisis.

Use of phrases "Robin Hood tax" and, especially, "bankers who provoked the financial crisis" in this manner would not, under normal circumstances, pass muster in top-tier editorial review.

I know I'm a broken record on this subject but what the heck is going on with NYT and this agitprop routinely inserted in FTT articles under the guise of context boilerplate? I just don't get it.
 
Quote from jackpearson:

A Financial Transaction Tax Could Weed Out All The Pointless Trading

http://www.businessinsider.com/a-financial-transaction-tax-would-get-rid-of-pointless-trading-2012-1


wow. fascinating article. it's hard not to see this as a cynical exercise; his "arguments" are so confused (cf., volatility), it's difficult to believe that the author does not know better.

question: might we see more of this from hft-hedgies who've watched their edges vanish with hft proliferation and so are now looking to re-orient themselves as position traders, a la Soros?

crafty position traders (a la Soros) would quite possibly benefit from the increased volatility that f.t.t. will bring to markets.
 
Quote from tortoise:

Excerpt from the article:

French and German policy makers see this as a “Robin Hood tax,” a way of discouraging speculative transactions and raising cash from the bankers who provoked the financial crisis.

Use of phrases "Robin Hood tax" and, especially, "bankers who provoked the financial crisis" in this manner would not, under normal circumstances, pass muster in top-tier editorial review.

I know I'm a broken record on this subject but what the heck is going on with NYT and this agitprop routinely inserted in FTT articles under the guise of context boilerplate? I just don't get it.

tortoise....Dude, the NYT is liberal spew and has been for years. If you want to claim it is a top-tier publication, then fine, but they have been promoting liberal, democrat, socialism for many many years. The media has been taken over by the liberals, and that was planned decades ago. Fox news is the ONLY conservative media outlet left (and of course the WSJ, which is owned by Fox's parent). Everything else (ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN and many many newspapers) are odumbo cheerleaders and want liberalism.

Remember, the pro FTT peeps here in the States and especially Europe and doing this for political reasons, not economic (because we have proven this is a destructive disaster). This is a socialism, liberal attack to take down capital markets....period. More guberment control is what they want.
 
Quote from d08:

All of his credibility is lost when he says "I have made a living since 1986 in high frequency trading", although I wasn't trading then, I'm pretty sure HFT didn't exist in '86.

Algo-driven trading actually started back in the late 1970's (though very crude by today's standards). When I was in grad school (mid/late-1980s) we did some research on its effects on the markets. At the time, Algo volume was very low (% of total) and limited in scope and it wasn't very well known to the public. One of my math professors was a consultant to GS, otherwise I probably wouldn't have heard about it until years later.
 
Quote from Stok:

tortoise....Dude, the NYT is liberal spew and has been for years. If you want to claim it is a top-tier publication, then fine, but they have been promoting liberal, democrat, socialism for many many years. The media has been taken over by the liberals, and that was planned decades ago. Fox news is the ONLY conservative media outlet left (and of course the WSJ, which is owned by Fox's parent). Everything else (ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN and many many newspapers) are odumbo cheerleaders and want liberalism.

Remember, the pro FTT peeps here in the States and especially Europe and doing this for political reasons, not economic (because we have proven this is a destructive disaster). This is a socialism, liberal attack to take down capital markets....period. More guberment control is what they want.

I respect your opinion. Please take my word for this:

Something is different here, and I say this an extremely-attentive, long-time reader of NYT.
 
Quote from tortoise:

Something is different here, and I say this an extremely-attentive, long-time reader of NYT.

It's like the LA Times and the illegal immigration issue. As far as they're concerned, there's only one point of view allowed and all others must be silenced.
 
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