1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

"Centre right tipped for victory in Spanish election

On Spain’s last day of campaigning for Sunday’s general election the centre-right Partido Popular was in bouyant mood. That is the result of showing a double-digit lead in the polls.
If they are correct then party leader Mariano Rajoy will be the country’s next president."

http://www.euronews.net/2011/11/19/centre-right-tipped-for-victory-in-spanish-election/

Does anyone know what the Spanish center-right thinks about FTT? I mean, if the elections in Denmark changed there point of view about FTT, why not the other way around? Maybe the new government in Spain will be against the FTT.
 
Quote from Robert A. Green:

Just had lunch in Vegas with the CEO of a major trading school. He is from Germany and moved to the US in the early 1990s, so I asked him about Germany and FTT. He follows the German news closely too.

Learned a lot. Germany has few to no online or regular brokerage firms for traders. Investors are force fed bank owned mutual funds, where banks pick the investments. Probably channeling money to their lending customers and buttressing German industry I presume. So like the Vanguard mutual fund CEO in the US, they rail against the evils of trading and glorify buy and hold mutual fund investing. No wonder why German banking hasn't fought back harder against FTT.

Germans do hate speculation and think trading is evil and that traders and banks must pay now with FTT. They are dead set for a federal EU led by Germany and they want the German-led EU to run the world.

It's scary to think that Germans who are so biased and prejudiced against finance could one day dominate regulation and tax policy over finance. This must be fixed and not allowed.

I wrote a Comment about this in that FT article today. Germany is increasingly becoming the odd man out.

You say he moved to US in the 90s. Does he only follow the German news or does he actually live there for a few weeks or maybe months per year?

He is absolutely correct, that there are, compared to the US, only a few 'discount brokerages' (which are mostly still too expensive and unprofessional, so that more serious traders often use US-brokers, for example). Also, many Germans are quite 'anti-trading', 'anti-investing' and even hate speculation - or speculators, for that matter. And there is also the traditional 'Obrigkeitsgläubigkeit' (faith in authority) deeply rooted in German history, which, by principle, is at odds with free markets and indivudals. As a result of that, most Germans seem to be in favor of the FTT, unfortunately.

However, I think he is mistaken about the Germans thoughts about the EU. One should not confuse the published 'opinion' and the true opinion of most people here. Acutally, I would dare to say that most Germans now dislike the EU, and even view the Eurozone experiment as a failure. Just following the mainstream media gives a different view. To understand this, one must know that about 70% of German journalists adhere to a quite leftist (social democratic / green / left party) political view and one of their pet projects is the extension of EU bureaucracy and disempowerment of the nation states. So, regarding EU politics, they are extremely biased.

By the way, keep up the good work with the articles and the anti-FTT initiative.
 
Quote from Robert A. Green:


Learned a lot. Germany has few to no online or regular brokerage firms for traders. Investors are force fed bank owned mutual funds, where banks pick the investments. Probably channeling money to their lending customers and buttressing German industry I presume. So like the Vanguard mutual fund CEO in the US, they rail against the evils of trading and glorify buy and hold mutual fund investing. No wonder why German banking hasn't fought back harder against FTT.

Germans do hate speculation and think trading is evil and that traders and banks must pay now with FTT. They are dead set for a federal EU led by Germany and they want the German-led EU to run the world.

The more the markets fall and gyrate the more people think traders and hedge funds are profiting at their expense.

My uncle recently said to me "buy and hold no longer works .. they take the market up and down 10 times a year and they make big profits each time". 'they' being traders, hedge funds and banks.

We need a new secular bull market. Main street will then become happier and public demands for a FTT will diminish.

If the markets continue to go lower and become even more volatile the calls for a FTT will also grow louder.

But i dont think we are going to see a new secular bull market for many more years.
 
Quote from Businessman:

The more the markets fall and gyrate the more people think traders and hedge funds are profiting at their expense.

My uncle recently said to me "buy and hold no longer works .. they take the market up and down 10 times a year and they make big profits each time". 'they' being traders, hedge funds and banks.

We need a new secular bull market. Main street will then become happier and public demands for a FTT will diminish.

If the markets continue to go lower and become even more volatile the calls for a FTT will also grow louder.

But i dont think we are going to see a new secular bull market for many more years.

The problem is that markets have always fluctuated...since the beginning of time (you could chart prices of rocks 5000 years ago, and get same up's and down's). You can pull up a chart of the DOW since 1900 and see the same patterns. I could isolate a 5 year chart of the DOW and remove the years and the axis and one could not determine the time.

The problem is with our fight, your uncle is being feed BS from the pro FTT leftist.
 
Quote from Lamar95:

"Centre right tipped for victory in Spanish election

On Spain’s last day of campaigning for Sunday’s general election the centre-right Partido Popular was in bouyant mood. That is the result of showing a double-digit lead in the polls.
If they are correct then party leader Mariano Rajoy will be the country’s next president."

http://www.euronews.net/2011/11/19/centre-right-tipped-for-victory-in-spanish-election/

Does anyone know what the Spanish center-right thinks about FTT? I mean, if the elections in Denmark changed there point of view about FTT, why not the other way around? Maybe the new government in Spain will be against the FTT.

I don't know much about Spain's politics, but perhaps this will offer a little insight about the new ruling party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Party_(Spain)

Known to have a strong Atlanticist ideology, the People's Party fostered stronger ties to the USA. Rather than getting closer to countries that the PP believed were harmful to Spanish interests in the EU (France and Germany), Spain preferred to foster stronger relations with the United Kingdom.
 
Quote from tomdavis:

I don't know much about Spain's politics, but perhaps this will offer a little insight about the new ruling party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Party_(Spain)

Known to have a strong Atlanticist ideology, the People's Party fostered stronger ties to the USA. Rather than getting closer to countries that the PP believed were harmful to Spanish interests in the EU (France and Germany), Spain preferred to foster stronger relations with the United Kingdom.

This is the party of that stupid Aznar who was so eager to take part in Bush's Iraq war.
It's a shame there are no sane alternatives. :confused:
 
"BRITAIN will soon be forced to scrap the pound and join the euro, one of Germany’s most senior figures said yesterday."]

Unless he is talking about the collapse of the UK economy and as a condition for bail out the euro must be adopted. Europe's going to be Shit if they ever manage to get full control.
 
Okay, this isn't directly relevant to the FTT, but...

.... since the European Commission is the driving force behind the FTT in Europe, this article reveals a lot about how these people think... or don't think, as the case may be.

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EU bans claim that water can prevent dehydration

Brussels bureaucrats were ridiculed yesterday after banning drink manufacturers from claiming that water can prevent dehydration.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html
 
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