1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

Some highlights from an EU Economic and Monetary Affairs committee meeting: Dated Oct 6 2011.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/en/pr...or-more-revenue-and-changed-trading-practices

Mr Semeta told MEPs that it was time to make the financial sector contribute more and at the same time reduce risky practices. Speaking specifically about the contentious practice of high-frequency trading, Mr Semeta also said that a financial transaction tax could force firms to rethink this model of trading since it would be the practice most targeted by the tax.

The debate saw wide divisions, notably between British Conservatives and some Liberals on one side and Greens and Socialists on the other.

A clash of ideas

Kay Swinburne (ECR, UK) argued against the tax, warning of "putting the EU financial centre in jeopardy" as firms leave to other parts of the world which would not be imposing such a tax. Olle Schmidt (ALDE, SE) feared for the future of Sweden's financial services, arguing that it would be such smaller financial centres that would suffer, rather than London's better- established one.

Philippe Lamberts (Greens, BE) hit out at critics of the tax, saying that they were not defending the common good but rather the "interests of just a few thousand people making money even from this crisis". On doubts as to whether the tax would succeed, Mr Lamberts drew a parallel with the once-fierce asbestos lobby - "Some years ago we were not sure about the benefit of eliminating asbestos either", he said.

Recurring concerns

Various other MEPs asked for clarifications on the geographical scope of the rules, the way the revenue would be divided between the EU budget and national budgets and who would collect it, and pointed out that less of the tax burden should end up on the shoulders of institutional investors such as pension funds and more on those of investment banks.

Mr Semeta replied that the scope would need to be as wide as possible, but said he was fully aware that it would not yet be possible to go global. He also stressed that if some Member States were not willing to participate it would be possible to use enhanced cooperation, with the tax being imposed on all institutions headquartered in the participating countries, thereby also taxing their activities outside.

He added that he believed that pension funds, as less intensive users of financial trading than investment banks, would be less affected by the tax. However he also cautioned against developing exemptions since this could lead to circumvention. The question of how to distribute the proceeds was still being worked upon by budgets Commissioner Lewandowski, Mr Semeta said.
 
Good article that all long-term investors should understand as it seems most even think FTT will be beneficial to them.

The EU commission has stated the tax will not be placed upon individual investors. ( Directly, not yet. Indirectly, immediately. )


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In addition, it hits every link of the sales chain so cumulatively the end investor would end up paying it more than once. They could even end up paying it more than twice - potentially as much as five different times in a single fund investment.

IMA director Julie Patterson says: "This is going to be an absolute nightmare...

http://www.istockanalyst.com/business/news/5463047/investors-will-pay-the-price
 
Quote from FightTheFuture:

Good article that all long-term investors should understand as it seems most even think FTT will be beneficial to them.


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In addition, it hits every link of the sales chain so cumulatively the end investor would end up paying it more than once. They could even end up paying it more than twice - potentially as much as five different times in a single fund investment.

IMA director Julie Patterson says: "This is going to be an absolute nightmare...

http://www.istockanalyst.com/business/news/5463047/investors-will-pay-the-price

+1
call it a VAT for investors.
 
I agree that there's a lot of uncertainty and it will be a while until we know how this plays out.

A friend of mine who lives in Sweden says the Swedish government is still adamantly against the FTT. My friend sent me an interesting email this morning saying that the UK Labor Party coming out against the FTT has been yet another nail in the FTT coffin and seems to have changed the political dynamics. Apparently Barroso had been assuring people all over Europe that he would get the UK to participate. Many who have backed Barroso, or who were at least willing to give him a chance, are now beginning to think he overplayed his hand on the FTT as it now appears that it will end up further fracturing the EU. (My friend's opinion, not mine. I still think Barroso is the Darth Vader of the financial universe.)

In the meantime, we need to stay on our guard here in the US and hope that the UK, Sweden and others stand their ground in the EU.

Quote from TraDaToR:

Perhaps but nasty things like this possible VAT loop and political pressure on a small country like Malta exist. I will perhaps have to relocate before 2014 and the last thing I want this time is to go to another EU country, be it against FTT.
 
Warning of unintended outcomes of Tobin Tax:

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/83379920-edde-11e0-a491-00144feab49a.html#axzz1a1ex6lZ8

“The FTT will hit hard pensioners and savers throughout Europe – not just the wealthy – because it applies to all financial transactions including those on behalf of pension and investment funds,” says Joanna Cound, of investment manager BlackRock. It estimates that a tax would cut 0.06 percentage points off returns for a bond tracker fund.

Corporate leaders cautioned that the financial transaction tax, which is also known as a Tobin tax after one of the economists who proposed it, could harm retailers and manufacturers, who use derivatives to hedge against currency and other price swings across their far-flung supply chains.

“Even low rates would lead to significant burdens and higher hedging costs for enterprises,” he said. “During times of high currency volatility and high raw material prices that would mean an additional burden on the economy,” says Martin Wansleben, head of Germany’s DIHK chambers of commerce.

“If the transaction tax is applied as it is now envisioned, the UK as a financial centre dies,” says a top London-based executive at a global bank.
 
Quote from FightTheFuture:

0xfam harassing, suing the poor and crippled with or without FTT.

http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/Oxfam-ban-Robin-Hood-row-banker/story-13503963-detail/story.html

That should be HEADLINES, not tucked away almost out of sight. Obviously the charity has more financial resources than the old chap. It reads that he is angered by what appears to be an advertising campaign based on academically insufficient, one-sided information, which in turn could be legally regarded as misleading.
I'm surprised no-one has challenged before now. It took an admirable old chap to stand up to them but they obviously have more financial resources than he does.
If that story could achieve media headlines, then someone would probably go to his rescue. Not before time. I wonder how the public would enjoy seeing their donations sunk down the hole of a very public legal battle against a 63 yr old retiree. Not a good look.
 
This absolutely clueless detestable rat that three quarters of voters believe is in no fit state to govern has jumped on the bandwagon for popularity.



Speaking at a Q&A session at the Labour party conference in Liverpool last week, Ed Miliband said he would back the tax, even if it only went ahead in Europe.

He said: “We are in favour of this. It is a hard thing to do but I think it is the necessary, important and right thing to do. You have got to do it globally though for it to work, or at the very least in Europe.”

Miliband slammed the Government for failing to push for the transaction tax at a global level through the G20, despite making worldwide implementation its condition for supporting the move


He has been banging on in recent weeks about the need to "punish predator business" whilst "rewarding productive"

http://www.moneymarketing.co.uk/pol...-on-financial-transaction-tax/1039021.article

I can not stand these itchy twitchy never had a real job career politicians since college clowns running Britain into the ground.
 
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