1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today


How many times are they going to push this thing to the G20. Hopefully the G20 just says enough is enough this time and puts the ftt to rest.

Also it's interesting that Barroso wants to use the money for the EU coffers whereas in Sarkozy's speech yesterday he talked about using the funds for development and helping the needy, etc. These idiots arn't even on the same page for using the proceeds.

-Guru
 
"A threat to competitiveness"
A European Financial Transaction Tax is misguided and would stifle growth, argues Neil Bentley - 25 Aug 2011

THE CALL from the German chancellor Angela Merkel and French president Nicolas Sarkozy to revive proposals for a European Financial Transactions Tax (FTT) is misguided, not only because it is unlikely to work, but because if it does it would have a chilling effect on UK growth and would damage competitiveness.

The arguments that are used to support an FTT are not compelling. Although it is right to have a domestic debate about whether the financial services sector and, indeed, other industries are taxed proportionately, few tax experts believe that an FTT is the right solution.

A transactions tax would be easily circumvented by companies simply moving their trades out of the EU. This would, of course, hit the UK hardest because London is by far the largest financial market in the EU. Transactions would be pushed out to competitor jurisdictions, like New York, Singapore and Hong Kong, damaging the UK's long-term competitiveness as a leading centre for financial services companies.

This is no idle threat – when an FTT was implemented in Sweden in the 1980s, share prices fell quickly and substantially, and half of all Swedish equity trading moved to London. The volume of bond trades fell by 85% and futures trades by 98%. As a result, the Swedish government eliminated the tax, trading volumes resumed, and Sweden is now one of the most vociferous opponents of the tax.

The argument that the cost introduction of an FTT would somehow rest with banks is not convincing – it would ultimately be borne by businesses and investors. The onus is on the private sector to drive economic recovery, but businesses that are trying to grow and create jobs by raising money from the markets would feel the impact of an FTT because of the subsequent increase in the cost of capital. This would hold back their growth potential.

These costs would also fall heavily on investors, including consumers saving for their future, and those parts of the industry which were less involved in the financial crisis – for example, insurance firms – which do not pose a systemic risk.

As the potential costs for businesses and the economy would be so high, particularly in the UK, Sarkozy and Merkel need to explain what they hope to achieve through the tax.

They cannot argue that the financial services sector does not make a fair tax contribution. The UK's financial services industry accounts for around 10% of total economic output, 11% of the UK's total income tax, and 15% of corporation tax. Additional tax is also collected from more than one million people who work in the industry through employer national insurance.

Nor would the tax correct risky behaviour and financial instability in the sector. Robust regulation and supervision is a much more effective means of achieving this and, in any case, there is little evidence that points to a link between transaction volumes and financial instability.

Maybe then, this is just a revenue-raising exercise, aiming to tap the London markets. In which case, they are likely to be disappointed, as history suggests that transactions would move elsewhere.

The proposals for an FTT simply do not stand up. At a time when we should be totally focused on promoting growth, the introduction of such a tax would damage businesses and stifle economic recovery.

Neil Bentley is CBI deputy director-general


http://www.financialdirector.co.uk/financial-director/opinion/2104456/threat-competitiveness
 
LOL.That's right. The biggest mistery to me is when they want to use it "against climate change". What are they planning to do? Giving money to Sahel half dictators so that they can reirrigate a country in desertification? giving subsidies to guano producers in Peru when El Nino is coming? Saving polar bears on isolated icebergs? I am really clueless...LOL
 
Dutch Finance Minister, Jan Kees de Jager, has said on several occasions that he's against the tax. Hopefully, the Dutch and Swedes (and perhaps a few others as well) will stand united with the UK and not give in to the pressure.

My concern has been that the other opposing countries would give up and throw the Brits under the bus. So far, that hasn't happened.



Quote from ksharmon:

headline this afternoon

DUTCH WILL NOT SUPPORT A FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS TAX
 
Nurses Hold, " Heal America Tax Wall Street, " Rally
KEYT Reporter

Story Created: Sep 1, 2011 PDT

Story Updated: Sep 1, 2011 at 7:28 PM PDT


Nurses converged on 60 Congressional offices in 21 states today.

They filled a bus and drove to Camarillo to rally outside the office of U.S. Rep. Elton Gallegly.

The group which brought the popular "Queen Meg" to the California governor's race last year made their point with political theater.

They say Gallegly has taken more than $1.3 million in campaign contributions from Wall Street interests and large corporations while hardworking people in his Congressional district are suffering.

They say 87,579 people are uninsured, and that 15,365 children and 4,755 seniors are living in poverty, and that 7,824 people dependent on food stamps, while 2,186 people who are homeless.

The RNs are calling on their representatives to sign a pledge to support a Wall Street transaction tax that will raise sufficient revenue to make Wall Street pay for the devastation on Main Street.


They say purchases of stocks, bonds and other financial instruments in the United States only pay a tiny fee on stock trades that helps finance the Securities and Exchange Commission.

In Britain they say a 0.5 percent tax on stock transactions raises about $40 billion a year.

President Nicolas Sarkozy of France and Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany are considerging a similar plan.

Congressman Gallegly chose not to comment on what's being called the "Heal America. Tax Wall Street," rally.
 
Quote from ksharmon:

headline this afternoon

DUTCH WILL NOT SUPPORT A FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS TAX

Would you happen to have a link for this? I don't see anything.

That's great if true . . . that would make 4 countries that could stand in the way of what needs to be a unanimous vote in order to pass (assuming they stick to their guns if/when the time comes).
 
Quote from MrPowerBallad:

Would you happen to have a link for this? I don't see anything.

That's great if true . . . that would make 4 countries that could stand in the way of what needs to be a unanimous vote in order to pass (assuming they stick to their guns if/when the time comes).

I wouldn't bet your money that there is not a way to get around the unanimity rule.
 
Quote from MrPowerBallad:

Would you happen to have a link for this? I don't see anything.

That's great if true . . . that would make 4 countries that could stand in the way of what needs to be a unanimous vote in order to pass (assuming they stick to their guns if/when the time comes).

Here are the countries that I've read about that are either against en EU ftt or would require all 27 EU countries participate (if a eurozone country):

UK, Sweden, the Netherlands, Poland, Ireland, Malta, Denmark, and the Czech Republic.

These are the countries I have on my tally. I'm still very confident that a EU or Eurozone ftt is highly unlikely. And the G20 is sure to laugh at France and Germany's call for an ftt at the G20 level...

-Guru
 
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