1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

"He also says the tax will be levied according to the domicile of the customer ordering the transaction, rather than according to the marketplace in which it is executed."
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Seems like UK financial and trading activity will still fall just as dramatically regardless of the above.

EU taxation commissioner Semeta has already stated they will raise the tax rate after it's implemented. Revenue will be a huge disappointment at the start so they will gradually raise it to two percent on everything, with 90 percent trading reduction, economic and job losses.

How do you stop stupid? What other tax is there that stops the actual activity of a business? It would be as intelligent as taxing autos to the point that the auto sales drop 90 percent. Maybe that's next.
 
If they only tax based on domicile and not at the exchanges, opportunities on european markets will be huge ...for non europeans firm. European finance will be entirely dominated by foreigners. Good job.
 
Quote from TraDaToR:

If they only tax based on domicile and not at the exchanges, opportunities on european markets will be huge ...for non europeans firm. European finance will be entirely dominated by foreigners. Good job.

I honestly don't think we need to worry about any of this. They are a good half dozen or so EU countries that will not go along with this EU ftt and I highly doubt France or Germany will do it alone (or together)... Just more political rhetoric and scare tactics.

-Guru
 
I added my below Comment to the WSJ article.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903639404576514442074736706.html

Excellent analysis and writing about the FTT. I’ve written about this subject a lot and this writer captured it very well in a fairly short space.

Just because Europe is becoming more desperate by the day – which is months for them when it comes to action - in dealing with its sovereign-debt crisis, doesn’t make the ludicrous FTT argument any less ludicrous. Yes, it does make Europe more tax hungry and it feeds their populist anger against the financial services industry and traders.

Putting your hands in the tax cookie jar, and trying to bake in FTT tax cookies will be the end for the greedy politicians involved. FTT will not happen because it’s financial market suicide. It will cause a flash crash in Europe overnight with market-makers fleeing the electronic markets. There won’t be speculative buyers for PIIGS debt at distressed prices. There won’t be market-makers providing liquidity and hedging opportunities to farmers, airlines, other corporations, pension funds and retail investors. Financial markets will become dysfunctional, volatile, dangerous, more expensive and less competitive.

Europe won’t collect even a tiny fraction of their big-hungry-stomach projections and they will lose much more in income taxes on financial service industry and trading losses. They will lose jobs and it will be the final nail in the EU-further integration coffin.

Whenever Europe is paralyzed to act in the continuing meltdown saga since 2008, it raises the FTT card to appease the angry and politically-powerful left. Europe is dealing with real austerity unlike much of America yet. It’s painful and Europeans are more bank-unfriendly in general than Americans are. Many in the EU – outside of the UK - view traders as parasite speculators (an ignorant view) and they’ve been quick to ban short selling too. FTT is a placeholder to keep the left at bay and for political maneuvering.

The only real threat for an EU-wide FTT is that it’s viewed as a convenient new EU federal tax. EU federalists will push it with desperation, but this EU crisis is too severe at this juncture for its consideration. This EU federal ‘taxation without representation’ – how many EU country taxpayers consider it - will generate Tea Party type fractures to EU federalization at this juncture. Rather than buttressing the left, it will buttress dangerous far-right nationalists.

First, fix this crisis and mess directly, rather than try to turn this crisis into an opportunity for Germany and France to take over the center of Europe, and kick out the fringe weaker countries. EU officials don’t take this poisonous FTT bait, you will regret it.
 
Quote from Lamar95:

This is very bad:

"He also says the tax will be levied according to the domicile of the customer ordering the transaction, rather than according to the marketplace in which it is executed."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...36706.html?mod=WSJEUROPE_hpp_MIDDLESecondNews


I have a question about the tax executed according to the domicile,
if fft passes at UK is this mean that only people that live in UK have to
pay this tax? or international traders that have an account with a broker in UK must pay also?

Thx.
 
Quote from SplitFire:

I have a question about the tax executed according to the domicile,
if fft passes at UK is this mean that only people that live in UK have to
pay this tax? or international traders that have an account with a broker in UK must pay also?

Thx.
Who knows? They can do whatever they want. The politicians have the power, and they can do absolutely ANYTHING, if they are not stopped! I just hope the bankers, brokers and other powerful people from the financial world are working behind the scene to stop this madness.
 
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Date: August 19, 2011 11:30:15 PM EDT
Subject: Google Alert - financial transaction tax

Just google above to see the latest, sorry links don't copy on iPhone.

News 10 new results for financial transaction tax
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Just How Much Does A Financial Transaction Tax Hurt Europe's Banks?
Forbes
The European Union has been toying with the idea of introducing a financial transaction tax for quite some time now. The proposal for such a tax also called Tobin tax – and more humorously the 'Robin Hood' tax – was rejected by the EU in 2010. ...
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Ten questions about the Financial Transaction Tax that need answering
Financial News
On Tuesday night, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy said they wanted to make a financial transaction tax a priority for Europe in a bid to raise revenues for the European Union – but the proposal has been thin on ...
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Financial News
19/08/2011German minister has reservations about financial tax
Expatica France
German Economy Minister Philipp Roesler has reservations about the idea of a financial transactions tax mooted by French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Roesler said Friday in an interview. "We would only back a tax on financial transactions if it is ...
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Britain faces £50bn bill under Brussels tax raid to bail out euro
Daily Mail
By Tim Shipman Britain faces a £50billion bill under plans for a new tax raid by Brussels, according to a report. That is the price the UK might have to pay if the European Union imposes a financial transaction tax demanded by France and Germany. ...
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Daily Mail
Transaction Tax Would Be Very Weak Says French Minister
Wall Street Journal
PARIS (Dow Jones)--France's junior Minister for European Affairs Jean Leonetti Friday said the tax on financial transactions being discussed by European leaders would be "extremely weak" and wouldn't threaten the competitiveness of the European stock ...
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Ségol: Financial tax must repair crisis damage
EurActiv
A financial transaction tax is needed to repair the damage of the financial crisis, which has cost millions in jobs, and the money should be used to invest in low-carbon growth and employment, said Bernadette Ségol, the newly-appointed ...
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French, German Finance Ministers To Meet Tuesday
Wall Street Journal
They will submit a joint proposal for the establishment of a financial transaction tax and for the harmonization of corporate taxes between the two countries to their European Union peers "at the start of September," the ministry said on Wednesday. ...
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SUNDERLAND ON SATURDAY: Why the rich should not be different when it comes to tax
This is Money
By Ruth Sunderland Banks, billionaires and assorted financial operators take the Leona Helmsley line on tax – it's for the little people. That assumption came to the fore in the row over the proposed financial transactions tax at the summit meeting ...
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This is Money
Countries seek 'Finnish-style' deals with Greece
Telegraph.co.uk
Meanwhile, a report by Open Europe found that the plans by Germany and France to introduce a financial transaction tax (FTT) could raise a total €80.9bn - of which €58.3bn would come from UK-based businesses. The think tank said that total EU financial ...
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Telegraph.co.uk
Hultgren gets cheers, boos during tax talk
Chicago Daily Herald
Hultgren said he will also not support the creation of a new financial transaction tax because it would penalize everyone with 401(k) and IRA investments. “I think that would be the worst thing for us to do right now,” Hultgren said.
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FTT: what a brilliant, painless idea! Yes, yes! Get all of Europe's 27 nations except the UK to raise 33% of the tax receipts and let the UK raise the remaining 66% of the tax take for us. That's equitable.

Then we do silly calculations on how many billions we will make as if FTT has no effect on trading volume.

Can't see the UK lying down on this when they have already imposed a levy on the banks. A FTT on top would simply empty the Square Mile and practically bankrupt the nation.

Personally I think there will eventually be a global FTT but not until we are a lot closer to the big brother global government the elite want. For now I expect lots of wrangling.

Having said that I just reminded myself about how stupid these people are who passed regulations such as the shape a banana had to be to qualify as a banana.
 
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