1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

Global Macro EconoMonitor.
http://www.roubini.com/globalmacro-monitor/260019/time_for_a_financial_transaction_tax
As a matter fact, 23 countries around the world have adopted a financial transaction tax (FTT), mostly as a means to cover the operating costs of domestic ...

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Roubini is an economist professing to base his thinking on reason and logic. I find errors in his logic on the FTT. He seems more bent on emotion and intuition than sound reasoning against FTT.

Roubini blames financial toxic assets comparing them to his pollution tax argument.

The real culprit is the underlying economy and bad debtors not paying their bills. Without financial products and actively-traded financial markets, those bad debtors won't get credit, which dries up the economy. After Dodd-Frank Fin Reg and bailout chills, what Roubini’s solutions will deliver are what’s in effect now – less credit and fewer transactions – which is hurting the recovery. If you don't like what you see now - lack of credit - you won't like a permanent extension of credit and liquidity impairment caused by a draconian-version of a global FTT.

Roubini admits a FTT could dry up liquidity and fall unduly on small savers. That’s also Secretary Geithner’s conclusions too. Roubini thinks an FTT dries up financial pollution too. But this liquidity-impairment actually dries up the entire river of water, so people can't drink clean water when they want to. Liquidity providers are better compared to the flow of water in the river, not to the polluters of complex financial products. Plus, complex financial products are not industrial waste or dirty water; they are like insurance and waste cleaning filters. Traders don’t create financial products, investment and commercial bankers and insurance companies do.

Again, the real problem is with debtors not paying their bills. Governments and consumers have been spending far too much money based on debt, which the government enables consumers to use with their unreformed GSEs. That’s the dirty polluting aspect of financial toxic assets, which is floated in our rivers. Banks creating and stationing life preservers up and down the river are clean and safe.

Roubini calls the financial markets “toxic liquidity” and a “tragic mirage.” He plays the moral hazard card too, comparing financial products to home insurance. But only arsonists’ burn down a house for insurance money, not banks and traders on their own portfolios.

Roubini says that Bear Stearns had way too many trades in the past few years and that’s probably a connecting factor to the financial market meltdown. Wrong again. Bear Stearns was very strong as the leader in clearing business on Wall Street and that’s why they had lots of counterparties and trading relationships. What brought down Bear Stearns was their straying into other risk on Wall Street, entering new businesses like longer-term investments in real estate assets through their own poorly-managed hedge funds. When the real estate prices dropped-off a cliff, Bear was caught in a liquidity trap and was not able to trade their way out of it. Trading and liquidity would have helped save Bear Stearns. Roubini’s FTT would have made Bear’s problem worse, with even less liquidity drained by FTT.

Roubini doesn’t make a compelling case for advocating a global FTT; in fact he does a better job laying out the counter arguments against a FTT.

I agree with Roubini that an FTT needs to be addressed on its own merits, not as a savior to the world’s poor. On its own, FTT still makes no sense, unless you want to severely impinge on the efficient-want-to-be markets. Yes, financial markets aren’t perfect and they are not purely-efficient as some claim, but they strive for efficiency and that’s a whole lot better than caving into China-style government central-planning with price and liquidity controls. An FTT is liquidity controls to control market pricing and that’s illegal and un-American.
 
It seems Roubini himself did not write this article. I would be surprised if he was personally in favour.

Thankfully the economic community seems pretty divided on many issues with the lefties such as Krugman and Stiglitz on one side and Taylor and Ferguson on the other. They seem to be using economic theory to support their political views.

The reason why economics used to be more accurately called 'political economics'...
 
Roubini is on left of the political economics divide, talking up further QE2 today, though of course he is not quite as 'red' as Mr Krugman or Mr Stiglitz...

Roubini appeared to be one of the more astute left wing economists, correctly calling the financial crisis and predicting many of the events which actually transpired in recent times, though it's not clear to me where he sits on the FTT debate.

I tend to dismiss jokers like Krugman, but I would be a little more concerned if someone as respected as Roubini got behind FTT because that would probably make others follow behind. On some matters Roubini has also been quite wrong, for instance in 2009 when he said that Jim Rogers forecast that Gold would reach $1500 was "utter nonsense".

But as I wrote before, it is possible that the article written by one of the Roubini economists doesn't reflect Roubini's personal views.
 
Liberal Groups Demos, EPI, and the Century Foundation release a new fiscal blueprint to lower the deficit (and tax the hell out of you).

http://www.ourfiscalsecurity.org/fiscal-blueprint

-They are calling for an FTT (they call it a financial speculation tax) on stocks of 0.5% which they say will yield revenue of $77.4B in the year 2015. This estimate is only for stock transactions. Adding derivatives will add significantly more according to the report.

-They also are calling for a Carbon Tax.

-They want a financial Crisis Responsiblility Fee on Firms with more than $50B in assets.

-Then they want to tax cap gains and dividends as ordinary income.

What a pie in the sky report this is. Let's hope the fiscal commissons report thats going to be released on Wednesday is much more benign.

-Guru
 
Question on Google news search.


Almost every day I search the general phrase "transaction tax" and every weekday there are 100+ results in the last 24 hours with an average of maybe 2 to 5 useful results on a fairly active day that pertains to the FTT.

Starting this Monday, Tuesday there are only a few results for each day, none for Wednesday yet and the entire month of November there are only a few results for each day, so hundreds or a few thousand results are missing for November.

Same results with "financial transaction tax", "speculation tax".

Searching "tax" reveals around 100 results for the current hour alone.


Not that I'm paranoid or anything! And not that Google has been accused numerous times of being biased or anything! And it surely must be a coincidence that it is happening when the Deficit Commission's report is due this week.
 
Quote from FightTheFuture:

Question on Google news search.





Not that I'm paranoid or anything! And not that Google has been accused numerous times of being biased or anything! And it surely must be a coincidence that it is happening when the Deficit Commission's report is due this week.


Try googling " financial transaction tax news". If there's anything new on it, you get a sub-title in bold. Hasn't been any "financial transaction tax news" header for a long while.
 
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