1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

http://www.france24.com/en/20100617-europe-clamps-down-debt-amid-spanish-fears

[...]Berlin and Paris also wanted to see a tax on financial transactions proposed in Toronto, but that idea did not make it past first base with a senior EU official saying it is "in the pipeline, but I wouldn't be able to answer where exactly it is in the pipeline."

Put bluntly by one diplomat, London simply "doesn't want it," for fear of banishing its lucrative finance industry to Switzerland or other non-EU offshore centres.[...]
 
Sarkozy Says EU to Suggest to G-20 Tax on Financial Transactions

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...st-to-g-20-tax-on-financial-transactions.html

June 17 (Bloomberg) -- French President Nicolas Sarkozy said the European Union will discuss a levy on financial transactions at the Group of 20.

“There are two different subjects,” Sarkozy told reporters in Brussels today after a summit of EU leaders. “There is a tax on banks that will feed a fund destined to make sure that what happened to savers doesn’t happen again,” he said.

“The second subject is a tax on financial transactions or on financial markets,” Sarkozy said. “It’s not decided. Germany and France have made this a major issue. But to work it must be global,” he said.

“Not everyone is enthusiastic, fearing that transactions will migrate from Europe,” Sarkozy said. “We will bring this debate to the G-20 and we will take our decision based on the reactions of the big players.”
 
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“Not everyone is enthusiastic, fearing that transactions will migrate from Europe,” Sarkozy said. “We will bring this debate to the G-20 and we will take our decision based on the reactions of the big players.” [/B]



LOL. They were so adamant about getting a FTT, and now they see the writing on the wall. They clearly see they will never get a FTT passed globally. The above quote says it all. It's a soft, I give up sort of statement, but yet, at the same time they have to save political face by saying we'll thrown the FTT idea out there, and will do what is agreed/not agreed to among the big boys. Germany and France know that if they implement a European FTT, investments will leave there and flock to countries like Canada, the U.S., Sweden, etc..... These Euro countries are so stupid, it's no surprise Hitler too them all in about 20 minutes.
 
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LOL. They were so adamant about getting a FTT, and now they see the writing on the wall. They clearly see they will never get a FTT passed globally. The above quote says it all. It's a soft, I give up sort of statement, but yet, at the same time they have to save political face by saying we'll thrown the FTT idea out there, and will do what is agreed/not agreed to among the big boys. Germany and France know that if they implement a European FTT, investments will leave there and flock to countries like Canada, the U.S., Sweden, etc..... These Euro countries are so stupid, it's no surprise Hitler too them all in about 20 minutes.

That's bottom line. The FTT is all or nothing. If one major power or block abstains, huge swaths of GDP will migrate to safe-haven countries. All bets are against it. This is one instance where corporate nepotism should benefit the little guy. Still, there's a looming threat retailers get thrown under the bus by Investment Banks in some bastard FTT compromise.
 
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Still, there's a looming threat retailers get thrown under the bus by Investment Banks in some bastard FTT compromise. [/B]



That's extremely unlikely. If the investment banks get exemptions, and the retail traders are forced out, then who's left to tax? If any FTT were ever enacted, it would have to include banks, or it's very purpose would be moot. In any event, there's no chance of a global FTT being passed.
 
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That's extremely unlikely. If the investment banks get exemptions, and the retail traders are forced out, then who's left to tax? If any FTT were ever enacted, it would have to include banks, or it's very purpose would be moot. In any event, there's no chance of a global FTT being passed.

It's not about regulation. It's about bureaucrats appeasing irate constituents, to keep themselves in a job.

The solutions to the banking crisis are well-known and simple:

1) Set cap requirements at 15 to 1, or 10 to 1.

2) End moral hazard (ie end the Greenspan put).

That's it.

Everybody knows it, but the bankers won't have it. So politicians need a sacrificial patsy to mollify the idiot sheep. That's us. We're the weakest link. Anyway, I hope you're right and it all blows over.
 
http://www.brettonwoodsproject.org/art-566355

IMF bank tax proposals cause controversy

A leaked copy of the IMF’s report to the G20 on A fair and substantial contribution by the financial sector has been criticised by campaigners for inadequate analysis of the potential of the financial transactions tax (FTT), dubbed the Robin Hood tax. Instead, the IMF proposes two different financial sector taxes to cover some of the costs of the financial and economic crisis.

An initial draft of the IMF’s proposals for how the financial sector could contribute to the costs of the crisis was discussed by G20 finance ministers in April, and a revised draft considered in early June. A final report is due to be submitted to the 26-27 June G20 heads of state meeting in Toronto, Canada. A leaked version of the report highlights huge costs of the crisis to governments: state guarantees to financial institutions “averaged 25 per cent” of GDP, with “government debt in advanced G20 countries. projected to rise by almost 40 percentage points of GDP during 2008 -2015.” However, it does not focus on the overall costs of the crisis, including unemployment and economic contraction with its proposals intended instead to simply “ensure the financial sector meets the direct fiscal cost of any future support.”

The IMF proposes two taxes. First a financial stability contribution (FSC) which would tax all financial institutions’ overall balance sheets, with the proceeds intended to cover any future costs to governments of bail-outs or restructuring of financial institutions. This would be similar to bank levies proposed by the US and a number of European countries. Though this would initially be charged at a flat rate for all institutions, it could later be adjusted to, “reflect institutions’ riskiness and contributions to systemic risk.” The second proposal, a financial activities tax (FAT), would be levied on financial institutions’ overall profits and remuneration to cover the “wider costs [to the economy] associated with financial crises.”

Despite the relatively small amounts of revenue these taxes would raise compared to the overall size of the financial sector or the economic damage wrought by the recent crisis, they have predictably been attacked by interest groups within the financial services industry.
Critics respond

The main critique has been that the IMF has not gone far enough, either in proposing taxes that could reduce systemic risk or cover the real cost of the crisis. In particular, international campaigners have been dismayed that the IMF paid scant attention to the FTT which could potentially raise far larger revenues than either the FSC or FAT. The FTT would impose a small levy on transactions such as currency or share trading to both raise revenues and reduce unproductive speculative activity.

In a detailed analysis of the IMF’s proposals, Stephan Schulmeister of the Austrian Institute of Economic Research finds that, “the assertion of the IMF paper, that an FTT ‘is not focused on the core sources of financial instability,’ does not seem to have a solid foundation in the empirical evidence.”

Aldo Caliari of US NGO the Center of Concern said, “the naiveté with which the IMF approaches its preferred mechanism – a bank tax tied to systemic risks – is astonishing for such a knowledgeable institution, unless it is in fact designed to let the financial sector off the hook.” He argues that the FAT and FSC do not reduce the overall risk in the system, and may increase it if banks are encouraged to feel that the taxes provide a government guarantee of future bailouts.

International Trade Union Confederation head, Guy Ryder, said that they were disappointed with the low level of attention given to the FTT, even though the IMF “recognises that a sufficient basis exists for practical implementation of at least some form of FTT and that implementation challenges are no different from the IMF report's preferred options.”

In response to widespread criticism, the IMF promised to include a more detailed annex on the FTT in its second version of the paper, but did not alter its stated preference for the FAT and FSC.

The communiqué of the early June G20 finance ministers meeting had only a passing reference to the IMF report, confirming that the Canadian government is unlikely to prioritise this issue at the Toronto G20 meeting in June. Further progress is unlikely until the Korean G20 meeting in November.
 
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Sarkozy Says EU to Suggest to G-20 Tax on Financial Transactions

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...st-to-g-20-tax-on-financial-transactions.html

June 17 (Bloomberg) -- French President Nicolas Sarkozy said the European Union will discuss a levy on financial transactions at the Group of 20.

“There are two different subjects,” Sarkozy told reporters in Brussels today after a summit of EU leaders. “There is a tax on banks that will feed a fund destined to make sure that what happened to savers doesn’t happen again,” he said.

“The second subject is a tax on financial transactions or on financial markets,” Sarkozy said. “It’s not decided. Germany and France have made this a major issue. But to work it must be global,” he said.

“Not everyone is enthusiastic, fearing that transactions will migrate from Europe,” Sarkozy said. “We will bring this debate to the G-20 and we will take our decision based on the reactions of the big players.”

Hopefully these idiots get laughed out of the G20 meeting and drop this insane FTT talk once and for all. If they are so inclined to to go it alone then do it. There is no way in the hell this will ever get G20 concensus.

-Guru
 
NYT again:


The Growing Push to Impose a Transaction Tax

June 17, 2010, 2:53 pm

Among the hot button issues that Wall Street will be following closely next week at the Group of 20 economic summit meeting in Toronto is the idea of imposing a worldwide tax on financial transactions. The move, championed by the Europeans, is aimed at curbing excess speculation and building revenue.

For now, the Obama administration is not supportive of such a tax, but international pressure and the widening budget deficit could possibly prod the United States to fall in line eventually.
Financial transaction taxes are nothing new. Britain has had a 0.5 percent tax on stock transfers for years. The United States had a transaction tax from 1914 until it was phased out in 1966, and it has not been seriously considered as a revenue source until now.

The Institute for Policy Studies, a left-leaning think tank, issued a report on Thursday promoting the benefits of such a tax. The report, titled “Taxing the Wall Street Casino,” contends that a transaction tax could raise $177 billion a year and could have even prevented last month’s so-called flash crash, in which stocks took a huge dive in just minutes and then suddenly shot back up.

The origins of the flash crash are still unknown, but many people believe that it had to do with high-frequency trading programs gone haywire. High-frequency trading programs, which now dominate equity trading, rely on computers to execute millions of trades to profit from very tiny spreads in the market.

The institute’s report argues that a transaction tax would have reduced the incentive to trade in such a way by eating away at the slim profit margins that high-frequency trading programs seek out. If the tax were in place during the worst 20 minutes of the flash crash, it would have cost traders $142 million in profit, the report says.

A transaction tax would go beyond instant trades, though, and could be extended to mergers and acquisitions. The tax is considered small enough that is would not necessarily hinder deal activity, but large enough to produce significant income to the Treasury Department, the report says.

Bills in the House and Senate to put into effect a transaction tax have been marginalized, but they could be resurrected in the months to come as a potential revenue source to help pay for the banking bailout. Meanwhile, if it is determined that high-frequency trading was the main culprit behind the flash crash, there could be calls by legislators to enact such a tax to prevent another market disturbance.

For now, the Obama administration is pushing for a special tax on bank profits to help pay for the bailout.

“Geithner clearly sees their proposed levy on the top 50 banks as a preferred alternative, rather than a complement to a transactions tax,” Sarah Anderson, one of the authors of the report, told DealBook, referring to Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner. “As we point out in the report, the bank levy would raise much less revenue, not directly affect speculation, and leave hedge funds and other financial institutions off the hook.”

Germany is close to imposing its own transaction tax to help fill the hole in its budget. The Germans, along with the French, are expected to push the United States in Toronto next week to do the same. But it is unlikely that Washington will budge at this point.

“They are talking about just going ahead with an E.U.-wide transactions tax,” Ms. Anderson said. “Then what would happen if we start to see them enjoy major benefits from this while the U.S. is out in the cold? I think it could become a real issue for U.S. economic competitiveness.”

– Cyrus Sanati



http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2...ush-to-impose-a-transaction-tax/?ref=business
 
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