1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

Quote from TraDaToR:

I hope Geithner didn't change mind after his meeting with Alistair Darling. He just said last time that he "hadn't seen proposals that made sense", that's all...


They did talk about all the proposals at the g20 meeting back in september. So we can assume , that Geitner has seen all the proposals and I am sure he has seen whats out there and what specific countries already have, I.E. UK stamp tax Brazil, etc.. I figured when he talks about he has not seen a proposal that makes sense, he knows the original tobin tax and others that have been around a long time. So thats a good thing so far, I think what came out of the g20 in september is what alot of people talked about was some countries proposing the tobin tax and US saying it doesnt make sense and thats when they initiated and tasked the IMF with the idea of the insurance fund based on the US model of the FDIC. The IMF doesnt come up with these things themselves, the are in the pocket of the us. Thats why it seems the IMF downplayed the idea of the tobin tax or financial transaction tax right after the g20 meeting when Dominic Strauss Kahn poured cold water on the idea. SO we know that many NGO'S and non profits who want to change the world want the tax , the people where it counts so far are thinking of other ways.


However, he said he didn't back plans for a so-called Tobin tax _ a flat tax on currency transactions named after the Nobel Prize laureate James Tobin. Tobin first made his proposal in the early 1970s when U.S. President Richard Nixon ended the dollar's convertibility to gold and effectively brought an end to the global currency system that had prevailed since World War II.

Tobin said the tax would help limit instability arising from a world of floating exchange rates.

"The very simple idea of putting a tax on transactions won't work for many technical reasons," said Strauss-Kahn.

The IMF was asked to come up with proposals about some sort of tax on financial firms by the leaders of the Group of 20 rich and developing countries, largely on the behest of German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

In an interview with the Associated Press, Lipsky agreed that the Tobin measure "seems out of date" but he accepted the general idea of deposit insurance, much like the U.S.'s Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, which was created in 1933 during the Great Depression when banks went under and depositors lost their savings.
 
Gordon Brown has no more clout and is just trying to save the political career he has that is dwindling. Geitner and usually top US officals do not comment on specific things like this anyways unless someone asked like in the town hall style meeting. Brown brought up the same thing again that they went over at the g20 and thats what Geitner had said does not make sense to do.
 
Quote from rsikit:

Here is the article in full from blommberg

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=aEbwLvzaLk04

Very good read. A couple of things caught my eye:

"Brown, who didn’t say whether he’d endorse a levy, said any policy would need to be implemented by all financial centers including those in the Middle East, Asia and Switzerland. He also acknowledged the “enormous and difficult” issues that need to be overcome to set up a “globally cohesive system.”


"For Brown, who is trailing in polls less than seven months before the next U.K. election is due, the comments are designed to open a divide with the Conservative opposition. While the Conservatives say the biggest risk to the economy is the government’s record budget deficit, Brown has stepped up his attacks on banks."

Sounds like someone just blowing hot air trying to save his own political ass (LOL)
 
Quote from rsikit:

Here is another comment which says US officals from Geitners office refused to comment. If they were for it they would have said it then :)http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091107/bs_nm/us_g20_brown_tax_2

Also it talks about Brown and his country giving 30 billion more pounds to the recovery the other day.

Well maybe Geithner will address the issue at his news conference.

This little tidbit caught my eye:

G20 officials said the levy mentioned by Brown would be broader and could be on all financial transactions or bank earnings. The levy would be small, perhaps around 0.005 percent, much lower than a Tobin Tax.

They mention the much lower rate and also mention a tax on bank earnings..

-Guru
 
Quote from listedguru:

Well maybe Geithner will address the issue at his news conference.

This little tidbit caught my eye:

G20 officials said the levy mentioned by Brown would be broader and could be on all financial transactions or bank earnings. The levy would be small, perhaps around 0.005 percent, much lower than a Tobin Tax.

They mention the much lower rate and also mention a tax on bank earnings..

-Guru

It's one thing to have a tax on earnings... quite another to tax transactions.
 
Quote from listedguru:

Well maybe Geithner will address the issue at his news conference.

This little tidbit caught my eye:

G20 officials said the levy mentioned by Brown would be broader and could be on all financial transactions or bank earnings. The levy would be small, perhaps around 0.005 percent, much lower than a Tobin Tax.

They mention the much lower rate and also mention a tax on bank earnings..

-Guru
 
Its always a differnt number .005 .10 .25 and usually is a differenrt amount of money it can bring in 80 billion 100 billion and have seen 400 billion. Its ridiculous. While we can all probably survive on a .005% tax which would be 5 dollars on 100,000 dollars of capital. We dont even want them to consider the lower amount becuase once they have one amount they can always raise the amount up. They can say hey its raising some money and not affecting the markets lets raise away! So while some amounts they talk about seem doable to survuve as a trade, we do not want any amount or any levy on us due to the fact they are not responsible and can raise it at any time. I will be looking to see a us press conference sometime today. If this issue is important enough or on the agenda they will discuss it and hopefully give their take on it. If not they probably will not discuss it. I atleast hope they discuss their insurance typ model.
 
.005 is not small when u are a professional trader. the fact this needs to be repeated over and over on a board like ET is a reflection on ET posters.
 
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