1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

Quote from Landis82:

I still don't think any kind of tax like this will fly. Moreover, half of that $700 billion is going to wind-up being spent in a much different manner than the "top-down" direct investment approach that Paulson used.

Larry Summers ( and others ) are bright enough to know that a transaction tax will distort the market. Even Dean Baker ( the economist that the NY Times writer Bob Herbert cites ) knows full well that Summers has yet to advocate any policies that would cause serious pain to Wall Street.

I hope you are correct Landis. I remember when it was brought up just prior to the bailout vote. Pelosi did not want to consider it because she feared she would lose the needed republican support, but she did leave the door open, and as you know, there are now less republicans to stand up against it...not that they would anyway.
 
Quote from shorty_mcshort:

Oh $hit!

"More recently, following the U.S. stock market crash of 1987, the idea of using transactions taxes to curb speculation received support from Joseph Stiglitz (1989), the former chairman of the U.S. Council of Economic Advisers and former chief economist of the World Bank. It also received support from Lawrence Summers (Summers and Summers 1989), the recent U.S. Treasury secretary. The bottom line is that the Tobin tax has a highly respectable intellectual heritage. Though this background does not make the Tobin tax necessarily right, it does dispel the notion that it is an outlandish idea."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1093/is_3_44/ai_75532962

It seems every time there is a crash or a steep decline this idea will pop up!


Yet they won't tell you that the 0.2 percent US stock transaction tax did not stop the 1929 crash.
 
Here is a little more info:

The Bush administration's proposed tax on futures trading:

...which was proposed at 7 cents per transaction, or 14 cents each time a futures contract is bought and then sold.
(The FY2007 budget does not specify any particular fee amount or rate, but simply
notes that the proposed fee would “cover the cost of the CFTC’s regulatory activities.”
Assuming that this means the entire CFTC budget, and that a uniform fee is to be imposed
on each futures and options contract traded on U.S. futures exchanges, a fee of 5.1¢ per
contract would be required to cover the CFTC’s FY2006 budget, or a fee of 6.7¢ to cover
the proposed increase to $127 million. (This calculation is based on trading volumes
reported by the CFTC for fiscal 2005: 1.554 billion futures contracts and 353 million
options.2))

http://www.nationalaglawcenter.org/assets/crs/RS22415.pdf

Pelosi:

U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, speaking to reporters after a meeting with fellow Democrats, said the fee could be assessed after five years if the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office determined taxpayers had lost money in the bailout.

Pelosi said that the Secretary of the Treasury could determine how to assess the fee.

http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache...s.com/article/bondsNews/idUSWBT00986620080927

No hurry no worry, there will be plenty of time for them to learn how damaging it is if it was 0.25%.
 
Quote from NielsenDK:

Here is a little more info:

Pelosi

U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, speaking to reporters after a meeting with fellow Democrats, said the fee could be assessed after five years if the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office determined taxpayers had lost money in the bailout.

Pelosi said that the Secretary of the Treasury could determine how to assess the fee.

http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache...s.com/article/bondsNews/idUSWBT00986620080927

No hurry no worry, there will be plenty of time for them to learn how damaging it is if it was 0.25%.

Thank you Nielsen.

And for what it's worth, Larry Summers may have supported a transaction tax some 20 years ago ( in response to the '87 Crash ) but more importantly he does not favor one now.
 
dont know much about this, just hearing about it.

but I'd love to shut down all you black box trading punks.

go get a real job picking lettuce.
 
I'm all for Obama tax hikes if it could alleviate some of the pains that many are going through at the moment. But, damn, if their main goal is to levy a transfer tax only to curb speculation, this will just hurt the economy even more. Without speculatorts, where will the liquidity come from? Without the speculators to take the other side of the trade, who would step up to the plate? Isn't this exactly what happened when SEC imposed a ban on shortselling on financial stocks?
 
The benefit of speculators is overstated.

Mostly by speculators.

Surprise, surprise.

Start looking for real work leeches.

leech.jpg
 
Adios amigos!

The *last* thing foreigners liked about the US was it's free-market and now, looks like that's going too, so...so long!

Good thing I'm already trading European markets.
There's no transaction tax there (yet), not even in UK if you know how to get around it.

Fuck the US bullshit.
 
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