1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

Stok · Jan 26, 2012

Quote from Rantany:

Obama goes after Wall Street but is silent on FTT

http://www.euractiv.com/global-europe/obama-goes-wall-street-silent-ftt-news-510389

When odumbo is 80 years old (if he makes it since he still smokes) he will still be blaming Bush and banks. He is such a fucking weasel!

Stok · Jan 26, 2012

Quote from Lamar95:

Who do you think is better for us, Romney or Gingrich?

The answer is who can beat odumbo. Romney has the best shot. Independent determine the winner and they do not like Gingrich and women do not like Gingrich either.

This will be one if the bloodiest campaigns in awhile. With odumbo amassing $1B to attack the GOP candidate on taxes, OWS themes, etc. The GOP with be blasting odumbos record.

Regardless, odumbo would love the FTT. Watch this closely.

bjw · Jan 26, 2012

Quote from Stok:

When odumbo is 80 years old (if he makes it since he still smokes) he will still be blaming Bush and banks. He is such a fucking weasel!

let obama have his bank levy, i honestly don't care. really, it's best for all of us if obama's current measuress come through without a fight. let the banks pay. if it's done right, the public will be happy and the whole ftt-thing will die down. the worst case scenario is nothing will change. things went terribly wrong, the public wants the banks punished, let them have those measures that punish those banks. an ftt will hurt is us more then them, a bank levy doesn't.

i don't agree obama wants an ftt. if he would have wanted it, he would have told so as the momentum to back it was right there in the G20 some time ago. he didn't, so at least give him credit for that.
and let's face it, obama will win another term, as the republican candidates, whoever it will be, are too damn stupid. does it really matter whether or not there will be an ftt? i really don't think so.

Stok · Jan 26, 2012

Quote from bjw:

let obama have his bank levy, i honestly don't care. really, it's best for all of us if obama's current measuress come through without a fight. let the banks pay. if it's done right, the public will be happy and the whole ftt-thing will die down. the worst case scenario is nothing will change. things went terribly wrong, the public wants the banks punished, let them have those measures that punish those banks. an ftt will hurt is us more then them, a bank levy doesn't.

i don't agree obama wants an ftt. if he would have wanted it, he would have told so as the momentum to back it was right there in the G20 some time ago. he didn't, so at least give him credit for that.
and let's face it, obama will win another term, as the republican candidates, whoever it will be, are too damn stupid. does it really matter whether or not there will be an ftt? i really don't think so.

History lesson on what really caused the mortgage crisis:

http://spectator.org/blog/2012/01/25/the-president-of-ameritopia-sp

I've read many reports that odumbo wanted the FTT and Summers and Geithner shut him down. Take that as you will. The fight we have is the spin and lies the left uses for their pro-FTT campaign. It does sound good...I admit that.

I want the levy all day long. And regarding if it really matters if we have a FTT or not, I don't understand what you mean. I am totally out of business and I don't daytrade.

bjw · Jan 26, 2012

Quote from Stok:

History lesson on what really caused the mortgage crisis:

http://spectator.org/blog/2012/01/25/the-president-of-ameritopia-sp

I've read many reports that odumbo wanted the FTT and Summers and Geithner shut him down. Take that as you will. The fight we have is the spin and lies the left uses for their pro-FTT campaign. It does sound good...I admit that.

I want the levy all day long. And regarding if it really matters if we have a FTT or not, I don't understand what you mean. I am totally out of business and I don't daytrade.

i'm not arguing with you what caused the mortgage crisis. ultimately it's more important what the public perception is of what caused the crisis. and let's face it, public perception (at least in europe, must be the same in the us) is banks need to hang. nobody cares about us. so a measure that takes out banks but not us, is good news as it'll make all of this go away. obama is now firmly on the bank levy-track and i hope nothing will derail him.

you misunderstood me on not caring about the ftt-thing. i'm out of business as well.

Stok · Jan 26, 2012

Quote from bjw:

i'm not arguing with you what caused the mortgage crisis. ultimately it's more important what the public perception is of what caused the crisis. and let's face it, public perception (at least in europe, must be the same in the us) is banks need to hang. nobody cares about us. so a measure that takes out banks but not us, is good news as it'll make all of this go away. obama is now firmly on the bank levy-track and i hope nothing will derail him.

you misunderstood me on not caring about the ftt-thing. i'm out of business as well.

I agree. But I have a fear with Geightner gone, odumbo pandering to OWS and unions, and the reports he wanted the FTT in the beginning makes me look behind my back constantly to see who is trying to fuck me.

Remember, odumbo and his cohorts have zero to little private sector experience and they do not understand economics. The few that did, are leaving the administration.

JamesL · Jan 26, 2012

Cameron: Euro FTT would be madness:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...n-tax-madness-urges-euro-area-to-do-more.html

slumdog · Jan 26, 2012

Quote from bjw:

i'm not arguing with you what caused the mortgage crisis. ultimately it's more important what the public perception is of what caused the crisis. and let's face it, public perception (at least in europe, must be the same in the us) is banks need to hang. nobody cares about us. so a measure that takes out banks but not us, is good news as it'll make all of this go away. obama is now firmly on the bank levy-track and i hope nothing will derail him.

We not only need to defend ourselves against the FTT.

We should also go on the offensive and push a bank levy as an alternative everywhere.

I have certainly made this point when commenting on pro european FTT articles on the internet.

The banks dont care about us, they will try and push a Stamp Duty model instead of a fully blown FTT if they get the chance.

I think we need to push for a bank levy as our alternative to the FTT.

MrPowerBallad · Jan 26, 2012

Quote from Lamar95:

Who do you think is better for us, Romney or Gingrich?

Unfortunately, it's not looking good for either of them:

The expectation in markets of every region is that Obama will be re-elected president in November, an outlook shared by 72 percent of respondents worldwide in a quarterly Bloomberg Global Poll of 1,209 Bloomberg customers who are investors, traders or analysts, conducted Jan. 23-24.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...l-showing-investors-resist-newt-gingrich.html

Stok · Jan 26, 2012

Quote from MrPowerBallad:

Unfortunately, it's not looking good for either of them:

The expectation in markets of every region is that Obama will be re-elected president in November, an outlook shared by 72 percent of respondents worldwide in a quarterly Bloomberg Global Poll of 1,209 Bloomberg customers who are investors, traders or analysts, conducted Jan. 23-24.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...l-showing-investors-resist-newt-gingrich.html

Still early, but I share the same concerns.

Follow this:

http://www.intrade.com/v4/home/

Gives you a feel as the elections get closer. Right now, odumbo is 55% chance to be re-elected, while Romney (which still isn't the nominee yet, so he should rise some if the nominee) is at 35% chance of being President.