1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

Quote from businessstaxes:

70% of intraday volume or could be more is wash trades by quants automated trading systems etc. did they just realized there is actually no or little money on the table to tax all phantom money and trades.??? not even worth the cost of collecting and administering the tax. it does the IRS millions in collecting and auditing taxes.

Yeah, it would pretty much kill all that trading, plus others, widen out b/a spreads, and leaving the average Joe investor screwed as well from both the stock and the lack of liquidity which would make it a double tax. But in terms of collecting, it wouldn't be like the IRS. You can bet they'd have the brokers and clearing firms do all the work for them and it would come out the second your trade is executed.

Kinda like California discussing legalized Marijuana and salivating over the tax revenue not realizing that once it's legalized, the price drops by 90%!
 
With the recession and ongoing changes in Washington DC, government spending is headed higher and tax revenues have dropped. The escalating budget deficit is starting to threaten the U.S. dollar and Treasury market. The 2010 mid-term elections may slow down big-ticket tax increases on the upper class, and the Bush administration tax cuts on that group expire in 2011. Politicians are hungry for new sources of revenue, and unfortunately one group they are targeting is traders and banks. Several health-care and jobs proposals or bills have included a financial-transaction tax and/or increases to long-term capital gains tax rates; rising from 15 to 20 percent with repeal of the Bush tax cuts and the House's health care bill proposed raising the rate further to 24 percent.

Although traders dodged a bullet in the Obama 2010 budget and earlier rounds, recent highly publicized jobs bills and proposals by the AFL-CIO union and other proponents with majority power in Congress and the administration are lining up a coordinated effort to pass a financial-transaction tax on traders. This tax has the power to put many active traders out of business. Traders need to fight it and defend their ground! In the game of “tax musical chairs,” traders won’t find a seat when the music stops if this tax is enacted.
 
Quote from tradingstation0:

With the recession and ongoing changes in Washington DC, government spending is headed higher and tax revenues have dropped. The escalating budget deficit is starting to threaten the U.S. dollar and Treasury market. The 2010 mid-term elections may slow down big-ticket tax increases on the upper class, and the Bush administration tax cuts on that group expire in 2011. Politicians are hungry for new sources of revenue, and unfortunately one group they are targeting is traders and banks. Several health-care and jobs proposals or bills have included a financial-transaction tax and/or increases to long-term capital gains tax rates; rising from 15 to 20 percent with repeal of the Bush tax cuts and the House's health care bill proposed raising the rate further to 24 percent.

Although traders dodged a bullet in the Obama 2010 budget and earlier rounds, recent highly publicized jobs bills and proposals by the AFL-CIO union and other proponents with majority power in Congress and the administration are lining up a coordinated effort to pass a financial-transaction tax on traders. This tax has the power to put many active traders out of business. Traders need to fight it and defend their ground! In the game of “tax musical chairs,” traders won’t find a seat when the music stops if this tax is enacted.




If the AFL-CIO has all this Congressional power, and the Democrats had this Congressional super majority, why couldn't they pass a Financial Transaction Tax??? Because even with that, they couldn't even come close to mustering support for a FTT. After the November elections, the Republicans will be picking up numerous seats in the House & Senate. If the Democrats couldn't pass a FTT with that super majority, they sure as hell won't be able to pass one after Nov. 2nd.
 
http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/mobile.../uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6782QW20100809

Brussels preparing proposals for EU-wide tax
Reuters UK
"There are various options that would not affect the finance ministries and have a link to European policy like a financial transaction tax, CO2-emission ...

Just what I predicted in my articles on FTT this past year. Brussels is hungry for power and a EU-wide tax to fund their EU-wide budget and agenda. The Germans object as they are not ready to turn over too much power to Brussels.
 
Quote from Robert A. Green:EU-wide tax
But why FTT? I wish those predictions of yours were a bit more... green;) I mean how about the carbon tax option? So Lewandowski is the new recruit in the Tobin Tax International fight for social justice? Haven't those guys forgotten that the UK taxpayer has just made more billions on their well-timed (albeit unintentional) dip buying of bank shares than the entire UK Stamp Duty collected from U.S. investors over two years?

And Lewandowski truly knows whereof he speaks! That man's financial industry experience consists of converting a couple of state-owned companies to exchange-listed ones (which he did so well that he even got prosecuted by the public prosecutor for allegedly acting against state interest during his privatization of two Cracow-based companies), where 'the' stock exchange is smaller than the CSCO stock, where one futures contract and one [illiquid] ETF are listed, exchange membership fees are higher than U.S. retail commissions, and there is virtually no competition among market makers or brokers, resulting in such flops as the recent delisting of all equity options. And he says that:

"..it would be easiest to convince the public to the financial transactions tax [i.e. to 'tax that man behind the tree'... and he is an unelected civil servant precisely to be freed from such populist short-termist vote-winning decisions - so he does not even understand properly his purpose of being there ]"

But let's delve deeper into his assessment of the chances of this happening. "The Commissioner however admitted, that the road leading to the introduction of such a tax would be long. It is clearly apparent that Berlin and Paris would want it, but talks about the financial tax have not lead to an agreement - he said. Moreover, every time when a new source of financing appears in sight, state finance ministers want to sieze it for their own budgets. There are also objections whether an European[-only] FTT tax would make sense unless the U.S. also agreed to introduce such a tax. Questions emerge about its impact on the financial sector and the possible relocation of financial institutions to other centers." [source: Lewandowski mulls an EU-wide tax, Polish Press Agency, PAP, for the wp.pl portal, URL: http://finanse.wp.pl/kat,12812,title,Lewandowski-rozwaza-podatek-unijny,wid,12554616,wiadomosc.html]

Where are the above objections in the Reuters coverage? Instead they preferred to cast him as the bad guy, firmly pro-FTT, even at the cost of factual correctness, as in this well-chosen sentence they quoted:

"A transaction tax can bring in a big amount of money," he said. "The others will only contribute a smaller part to the 140 billion euros a year we are spending." ...which is simply not true, because even pro-FFT tax researchers such as Schmidt claim exactly the opposite - admitting the FTT (originally designed for volume throttling and not suitable for revenue raising unless its rates are drastically reduced) will be the worst option in terms of the revenue-raising potential:

Schmidt (2007) finds that that a CTT rate of 0.00005 would be nearly volume-neutral, reducing foreign exchange transaction volumes by "only" 14%. However, such volume-neutral Tobin tax would raise relatively little revenue, estimated at around $33 bn annually, i.e. an order of magnitude less than the "carbon tax [which] has by far the greatest revenue-raising potential, estimated at $130-750 bn anually". Notice that 'their' own most competent researcher did not recommend the FTT option at all! [see: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2753169&highlight=Schmidt#post2753169 ]
 
Quote from cashonly:

...that once it's legalized, the price drops by 90%!

We'll sell in 500 pound lots with $0.01 ticks for $5 dollar ticksizes to be priced either per pound or per ounce, sell at $2,000 per pound and cover $200. That is 90%. I agree, but the projection is long term dependent on the outcome of the vote. I would consider it extremely likely to pass, though.
 
Brits joined the Germans in flatly dismissing an EU-wide FTT.


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