1/4% Tax on all stock trades pushed in NY Times today

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousivMolt/idUSTRE5AH5CN20091118

US financial trade tax faces uphill battle
Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:19pm EST

By Kim Dixon and Andy Sullivan - Analysis

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Proposed taxes on financial transactions face an uphill battle in the United States with powerful interests opposed and a lack of support among some key U.S. lawmakers.

Proposals in the U.S. House of Representatives that would impose a 0.25 percent tax on over-the-counter derivatives transactions and stock trades are among ideas being mulled by top lawmakers.

But support is lackluster among tax-writing legislators and the idea is likely to hit a roadblock in the Senate, where consensus is harder to achieve.

"It comes up because it looks like a money machine ... it's a very tiny tax on a lot of transactions and seems painless," said Clint Stretch, managing principal for tax policy at Deloitte, and former counsel for the joint congressional tax committee. "If you are a mutual fund manager, in and out of the market all the time, those little pieces of pennies would accumulate."

One proposal could raise $150 billion a year.

Lobbyists for securities firms, brokers and banks are all watching the debate but believe it ultimately will fail.

In addition, U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has been skeptical of the idea.

"The Obama administration clearly does not support a daily transaction tax," Anne Mathias, an analyst in Washington at Concept Capital, told clients in a note. "We cannot completely dismiss the slight possibility it could be part of a House jobs bill in the next month or so, but we think even if it cleared the House it would have virtually no chance in the Senate."

Several Democratic leadership aides said it was premature to say whether a transaction tax, which is also being pushed by unions, would be included in the final package, since it is one of many items under consideration.

PROPOSALS

Representative John Larson, the No. 4 Democrat in the House, has proposed a 0.25 percent tax on over-the-counter derivatives transactions, but his measure has drawn no co-sponsors since it was introduced in July.

Representatives Peter DeFazio and Ed Perlmutter are floating a bill that would tax stock trades at 0.25 percent, options at the rate of the underlying asset, and futures transactions, swaps and credit default swaps at 0.02 percent. It would exempt the first $100,000 of trades each year.

The $150 billion raised per year would go to reducing the deficit and job-creating measures like road construction, the lawmakers said in a letter to colleagues.

They have spoken with House leaders and aim to introduce the bill in coming weeks, aides said.
 
Quote from cstfx:

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousivMolt/idUSTRE5AH5CN20091118

US financial trade tax faces uphill battle
Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:19pm EST

By Kim Dixon and Andy Sullivan - Analysis

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Proposed taxes on financial transactions face an uphill battle in the United States with powerful interests opposed and a lack of support among some key U.S. lawmakers.

Proposals in the U.S. House of Representatives that would impose a 0.25 percent tax on over-the-counter derivatives transactions and stock trades are among ideas being mulled by top lawmakers.

But support is lackluster among tax-writing legislators and the idea is likely to hit a roadblock in the Senate, where consensus is harder to achieve.

"It comes up because it looks like a money machine ... it's a very tiny tax on a lot of transactions and seems painless," said Clint Stretch, managing principal for tax policy at Deloitte, and former counsel for the joint congressional tax committee. "If you are a mutual fund manager, in and out of the market all the time, those little pieces of pennies would accumulate."

One proposal could raise $150 billion a year.

Lobbyists for securities firms, brokers and banks are all watching the debate but believe it ultimately will fail.

In addition, U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has been skeptical of the idea.

"The Obama administration clearly does not support a daily transaction tax," Anne Mathias, an analyst in Washington at Concept Capital, told clients in a note. "We cannot completely dismiss the slight possibility it could be part of a House jobs bill in the next month or so, but we think even if it cleared the House it would have virtually no chance in the Senate."

Several Democratic leadership aides said it was premature to say whether a transaction tax, which is also being pushed by unions, would be included in the final package, since it is one of many items under consideration.

PROPOSALS

Representative John Larson, the No. 4 Democrat in the House, has proposed a 0.25 percent tax on over-the-counter derivatives transactions, but his measure has drawn no co-sponsors since it was introduced in July.

Representatives Peter DeFazio and Ed Perlmutter are floating a bill that would tax stock trades at 0.25 percent, options at the rate of the underlying asset, and futures transactions, swaps and credit default swaps at 0.02 percent. It would exempt the first $100,000 of trades each year.

The $150 billion raised per year would go to reducing the deficit and job-creating measures like road construction, the lawmakers said in a letter to colleagues.

They have spoken with House leaders and aim to introduce the bill in coming weeks, aides said.

We don't need something that was posted this morning posted again stfx.. instead comment on the CBS article.
 
Also make sure you write your reps where it really counts. Like I said yesterday it helps. Atleast we might get a glimpse on their position. My rep I wrote to a while back a denocratic senator in NC emailed me back or mayber her aide did. Either way she said she was against the transaction tax. Now we know one more senator on our side and a democratic one at that. So also write the reps and sens. Dont worry about people telling you it does not help, because at the worst it does not hurt.
 
Actually, I think it *would* be a good idea to have a .05% transaction tax. Screw the black boxes out of business for say 6 mos or a year and then start over. Who knows, maybe the Goldman crooks might even change their ways in that time too.
 
Screw it all!!

We already pay SEC tax, and commish.....this is insane!

I trade the ES for a living. My models trade once per day and this tax will put me out of business. My swing models will survive, but my bread and butter will be gone.

My swing trading will take 30% off the off the top with this tax. Those trade 2x a month.......CRAZY!!!!

This is net negative revenue to the guberment!!!

2010 is all we can hope for.
 
SIFMA Opposes Securities Transaction Tax

The Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association (SIFMA) today released a statement from Kenneth E. Bentsen, Jr., executive vice president, public policy and advocacy on a legislative proposal that would impose a tax on securities, futures and derivative transactions.

“Imposing a tax on financial transactions is the wrong idea at the wrong time. Such a tax would likely result in a stalling of the stock market, cutting off companies’ ability to raise capital to fund new investments in plants and equipment, and thus create jobs.

“Furthermore, it would directly and detrimentally affect millions of Americans by imposing a tax on their savings such as mutual funds, just as they are seeing their investment assets regain value. Additionally, the exemptions contained in the proposed legislation are completely unworkable.

“At a time when we are in the beginning stages of economic recovery, imposing a tax that would actually constrict economic expansion is bad policy. The better policy direction to ensure any future financial crisis does not result in an economic downturn is establishing a strong systemic risk regulator and clear, unambiguous resolution authority for failing institutions.”

http://www.mondovisione.com/index.cfm?section=news&action=detail&id=86862

<i>i should note that I find this statement disappointing in that it could be MUCH stronger--KSH</i>
 
It’s been a week since Gordon Brown stole the headlines at the G20 Finance Ministers’ Meeting at St Andrews on 7 November by supporting a Financial Transactions Tax (FTT). Was it all a flash in the pan, or has Gordon taken the debate to a new level? In truth, the campaign for what will probably always be known as the ‘Tobin Tax’ had been on a rising curve for months, but will take some time to deliver. But Gordon Brown’s statement was a major milestone, and he deserves support from progressives for what he did, especially as he has come under predictable fire for doing so.

http://www.touchstoneblog.org.uk/20...tax-summing-up-a-week-after-browns-bombshell/
 
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