Quote from andohmeeta:
and even subversive practices using religious extremism in the style that has the potential to do to us exactly what has been done to previously peaceful UK, Holland and elsewhere.
you have every right to your own opinion, and you are way more of an expert on what's happening in your own country than me so I won't comment, but please also don't pretend like you now what's going on in other countries because it's obvious you don't.
i am from holland myself, so on my own country I can comment. Nothing has been done to us by immigrants or religious extremism. what has happened though, is the extreme right scare-mongering intellectually not so developed parts of the population with populist talk and lies. that's fine, if they would have something constructive to offer, a viable political alternative. they don't, they never take responsibility for anything, and they only oppose. i'm not just talking immigrant issues here, i'm also talking basic (traditionally right wing i might add) economic and fiscal reforms our country and the entire EU desperately needs to become economically viable again. they oppose everything. that is what is polluting our country, not anything "religious extremism" related. have you ever been in my country at all, or are you just copying what you've read?
regardless, i've said this over and over, whether you're from the left, the right or the centre, and whether you're a socialist of far right wing, it shouldn't matter. whatever the ideology, the proposed (and now almost dead) euro ftt is completely absurd. anybody who understands what it entails (not many politicians unfortunately) understands there's nothing in it for anybody, except maybe anarchists.
please don't make this topic into some sort of a political debate, and let's stay on ftt-track.
