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One of the rare posts here that actually made me lol. Thanks for that. People like B1S2, WC, FT etc fascinate me, I hate to admit it but I often find myself trying to imagine how they and their lives look like when reading their posts. Only thing I can be reasonably sure of is they never had...

I have to disappoint the believers here, the entire video is just made up bullshit. Some parts can actually be debunked as deliberate misquotes, for others the last days or hours are just completely unknown. A bunch of religious sites contain the exact same list as the video with none of them...

I don't have much time now, but will check on the excel again and come back to you on the actual topic. But I do want to admit right now that you are right on me drawing the wrong conclusion after you stopped answering. Mea culpa. In my defense (not an excuse, but an explaination you might...

Why don't you make memes about traffic lights causing accidents and killing people? Same logic you use for covid/ vaccins can be used. Before traffic lights existed there were hardly any accidents! Do your own research: areas that have more traffic lights also have more accidents and traffic...

I still wonder why Tsing Tao started ignoring this thread after I answered his question and asked him to share his conclusion on that dataset in return. Can someone confirm that this is standard modus operandi for independent critical thinkers?

So what is your conclusion Tsing Tao? A bit weird to post a dataset and ask me to draw a conclusion and then disappear, no?

The irony on some of these misterkel memes is fantastic. I especially love the "Me: *sends proof*" one. It makes me wonder if these memes are made by people with a really good sense of humor, just to see them spread all over these facebook groups by the target audience.

Hey Tsing Tao, I'm also genuinely curious about your conclusion on that data.

I opened the main excel on top of the page, not sure which one you are referring to but that one seemed to be the total overview. Main conclusion from that table for me would be that there is a significant difference in "age-standardised mortality rate" (column G): Unvaccinated: average = 1481...

I don't know what to answer to you at this point. If you feel it is a narrative that drives me to trust some studies and don't trust others and you choosing to believe the nonsense is just a matter of having two opinions of equal worth then my conclusion is any further discussion is worthless...

Ok, I should not have said ALL studies since I am not a professional expert and probably haven't read ALL of them. I didn't realize we are playing word games here. I have read several studies concluding vaccination also makes sense for teenagers, and didn't find a single - reliable - study that...

You posted a personal anecdote, my point is that is not relevant in this discussion. All studies so far prove vaccination was the right thing to do. That is why I said you are wrong. Yes, side effects exist. But taking everything into account vaccination saves lifes. That is a fact, not an...

Ok. And my family and myself got the vaccin. Didn't notice anything at all. Does that prove side effects are non-existent? No. But you not dying from covid in the same way doesn't prove others don't. It's about odds and large numbers. Looking at it from the perspective of an entire society the...

Sorry Tsing, but you are still wrong on the whole covid and vaccin thing. Yes there are side effects. But covid is a lot worse. All studies so far confirm this. So please explain the whole "covid is just a cold" combined with "vaccins kill millions" logic to me. It just doesn't make sense.

Exactly. Catchy title, but this is from the actual paper: "The researchers noted in their analysis that COVID-19 infections have consistently been found to be more likely to cause the conditions observed in this study than vaccinations, adding that factor should be considered when weighing the...

Not really. Trump might go to prison before he gets elected, I don't see any reason why other candidates would be sent there. But I get your post: you are trying to push that it is a political trial. It's not. Trump tried to place himself above the law and is finding out he isn't, that's all.

I haven't been through all the links, but randomly selected a dozen and it seems it's just a collection of studies describing side effects of covid vaccines. Nobody denies there are side effects. But they are either not that harmful or very rare. You claim the vaccines are very harmful and...

I don't really understand your point. I mention I haven't seen any proof and your answer to that is a lot of words and that I didn't pay attention. Then you go on making some claims about vaccins being inefficient and unsafe but you - again - don't provide any proof. All the anti-vaxxers...

John Roberts never said or wrote anything about being afraid of riots. The reason was simply because there was no case. Courts have to work with facts, not tweets or fantasy from right wing conspiracy sites. The source for the story you are referring to is supposed to be a SC staffer that...

I think they should for sure. I just don't understand why you think people who took the vaccin got duped. So far I haven't read any proof or even indication for that. People can have opinions, but if the facts prove their opinion wrong they should be big boys and admit it, DONTCHATHINK?