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1) I didn't say it coudn't be done. I am saying it is less likely to be over fit. It really depends on your number parameters, etc, etc 2) www.indigoinvestor.com is a 2k pile of shit my step bought a few years back. He is more math inclined than I, we both agreed it is worthless.

jem, I believe much of the bad press about otimization came from the days when people used only end of day data. It is so easy to over fit EOD data it isn't even funny! Contrary to that, if you find a system that works well on a very small time frame it is much more likely to have strong...

I have found their tech support to be ok for the most basic "duh!" types of issues. However, if you have knotty questions you are better off asking the omega list. I called tech support once to complain about how shitty and slow large arrays are in EL, before I knew about pushpop, and the guy...

for intraday systems: 0-1 shitty 1-2 good >2 excellent

True, TradeStation does have many limitations. Do you use Wealth Lab, liquidtox? I am trying the demo now. I find it very nice, except it seems to run a bit slow with a lot of data. I am using over 1 year of 1 min NQ data and that is bogging it down some.

I don't agree with this at all. Anything with parameters is curve fitting, which isn't particularly bad. You can't expect a curve fit system to run on multiple time frames, markets, etc. A better test would be can you curve fit the system to the other markets, time frames. I mean seriously, each...

savage, you should increase the resolution on those pics. They show up on my monitor as 2 inches wide and half as tall. Impossible to read!

Try the NQ with 200 MA and BBands (avg @ 200 as well), using 1min bars. If you look at that setup, you'll see that it explains itself. This works coded as a systems but better as a discretoinary method.

ahahahaha let me guess, you read the manual! I feel somewhat stupid:D Seriously though, I was totally unaware that there was a hotkey for it. I looked but didn't find it I guess. I also must have figured, like everything else in tradestation, that the only way to do it was some hard...

I strongly recommend all the TS users here to get in the habit of at least once a week clearing your data cache. I have been finding minor errors in the data on my HD. I have found this problem on another machine as well. I think the root of the problem is that TS doesn't error check the data...

Amen kymar, Another thing you don't hear around here much is the truth: Trading is hard. Anyone who says otherwise is either some reincarnated super guru or a liar. I really think that is what causes the bitchiness. With trading there is no support system; you are totally on your own. Most...

As I see it, there are two types of systems. The ones with parameters, and the ones without parameters to optimize. I have yet to see a system that works well without any parameters to optimize, but no doubt one could be built. The systems with parameters are merely curve fitting the data points...

OK that is my last post today. If I post again, someone please bitch slap me. Those of you who have TradeStation might find this attachment amusing. It is a completely random system. If you optimize it you can get it to be profitable. However, when you run it again the results will be completely...

Nothing is "new" under the sun. Nonetheless, I found it fun to read.

Read this in the print version, it is now online. Highly recommended. http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.09/vegas.html

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LOL! Yep taxes sure suck. However, the upside is that they pay for the bombs we drop on terrorists, public sanitation, etc, etc Stock777, the issue is both. The marking to market is what could cause the long term tax treatment to be changed to ordinary, short term capital gains. So therefore...

Thanks for the clarification cracked. I will still do my due diligence though, don't worry. Maybe I should order that greentradertax guide...

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