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    Nixon Shock: 50 Years Ago Today

    There is nothing, absolutely nothing, in regard to the U.S. abandoning the gold standard that could be further from the truth. The U.S. abandoned the gold standard because it was unsustainable for reasons having nothing whatsoever to do with the nonsense you posted. The Bretton Woods accord...
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    Unprecedented: British Parliament hold Biden in contempt

    What is the alternative, stay there for three generations and take over the government while we are at it? The Major error is on George W. Bush, which was compounded under Obama, and Fucked up beyond belief by Trump with Pompeo's self-serving urging, and Stephen "Mengele" Miller's diabolical...
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    It’s official: July was Earth’s hottest month on record

    You are one of my favorite posters here on ET. And I might add that your choice of that jerk on TV as your avatar is absolutely perfect. You have a finality about your posts that lays to rest, immediately, any issue. It reminds me a lot of one of my old Hockey coaches. He wasn't very bright...
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    It’s official: July was Earth’s hottest month on record

    I think there is a misunderstanding. I wasn't giving you an example of a case where CO2 concentration varied from one area of the planet to another (although in practice the CO2 concentration is not uniform but it doesn't vary a great deal (as measured in dry air!). Reported values are of...
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    It’s official: July was Earth’s hottest month on record

    I am happy with that. I might say it a bit differently is all. Did you have a chance to look at the example I mentioned of desert versus versus meadow? Do you have any questions about it?
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    It’s official: July was Earth’s hottest month on record

    Please see the example I just posted. An example where increasing the CO2 decreases the amount of heat reflected back to Earth because something else is happening. In other words I am at a loss to find any real case that can satisfy your requirements that nothing else change when CO2...
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    It’s official: July was Earth’s hottest month on record

    But this does not apply to our earths atmosphere, does it? Are there any possible real cases where CO2 in the atmosphere could change its concentration and nothing else changes. I don't think so. So if you assume that nothing else changes you will nicely predict something other than what you...
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    It’s official: July was Earth’s hottest month on record

    Yes of course. But ceteris paribus only applies to thought experiments , it can never apply to the Earths Atmosphere.
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    It’s official: July was Earth’s hottest month on record

    It's true, but recognizing this is not much help in understanding our planets surface temperature. It is a complex, multivariable problem. Temperature affects CO2 concentration, and CO2 concentration affects temperature. So a more important question is, "which is the independent variable...
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    It’s official: July was Earth’s hottest month on record

    There has never been a question as to whether CO2 and Temperature are correlated. The only question is which is the dependent and which is the independent variable. (cf Henry's law)
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    It’s official: July was Earth’s hottest month on record

    There are other possibilities. If Shaviv is right, than climate change is exceedingly slow and we will all be long gone before there is drastic change. And if he, and Salby, and Miskolczi are correct than our efforts will have almost no effect no matter how much we cut our burning of fossil...
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    It’s official: July was Earth’s hottest month on record

    The blanket statement that "CO2 is a pollutant" is incorrect. That was my only point. So we ought not to think of it as such. Your characterization was correct. Now Arnie has caused me to make an additional point, viz., The Court has ruled that CO2 emissions can be regulated by the EPA. They...
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    It’s official: July was Earth’s hottest month on record

    :rolleyes: Don't be silly. Read Massachusetts v EPA. The Supreme Court did no such thing. Even ex-Circuit Court Judges know that the only CO2 you can regulate is what is voluntarily produced by man. and that one CO2 molecule is indistinguishable from another, and that CO2 is a natural and...
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    Should Americans be ashamed of their country for not talking care of their allies in Afghanistan?

    Answer to the Question posed by the Thread Title: If we don't do it, Yes. It is still to be decided. But we are fast running out of time.. We nay need to send thousands of troops back in to protect those that helped us and see that they the get out safely. We know who they are and we can...
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    It’s official: July was Earth’s hottest month on record

    If we can get our science right and avoid Science by Public Consensus. We'll be OK.
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    Tomorrow, Aug 13th, is the day Trump Becomes President Again--

    The two posts immediately above are representative. If hope userque is wrong in his assessment of where we are headed, but we are at dangerous point in the Republics travel through time. We've had other such moments and we came through them not unscathed, but we survived. I remains to be seen...
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    It’s official: July was Earth’s hottest month on record

    Well, CO2 is not a pollutant, it's an essential component of the atmosphere. The other components a few of which we call pollutants are present at very small concentration compared to CO2, and CO2 itself is only a trace component of the air. We must take concentration into account . For an...
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    Tomorrow, Aug 13th, is the day Trump Becomes President Again--

    Let's hope. It is never good when the government trys to governs in opposition to the will of the people. As things are going at present the GOP seems to be committing a slow suicide. There only hope to prevail may be subversion of law followed by autocracy.
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    Tomorrow, Aug 13th, is the day Trump Becomes President Again--

    If there is anything, anything at all, that spells trouble ahead for the American Republic, it is that nearly one third of what was the Grand Old Party now believes ridiculous crap, and will act on this crap they've been fed by Trump, Rudy, Sidney and the Pillow Guy. Our Republic's Founders...
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