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    Single Payer is they will give us in end

    I don't know what his specific politics are, this is what Wiki has to say: "a visit to the Soviet Union in 1991 was enough to make him a firm "believe[r] in capitalism, private property, the market." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Piketty He has lived and studied and worked as an...
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    What he meant by that, and this is truly insightful considering that it was mid 19th Century when he wrote that, is that if labor costs rise, those with capital will use their capital to buy machines that will replace labor; thus the cost of labor will be held in check. The affect on labor of...
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    Single Payer is they will give us in end

    There is nothing Marxist about Piketty, if that is what you are trying to say? You'll hear people say he is a Marxist, but obviously they haven't read both Capital in the 21st Century and Marx. It's likely they have never read either. If they had, they wouldn't make that mistake. Have you...
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    You have touched on some important issues. I like the tenor of your conversation in this post it ovoids the "but your the one" approach to discussion and gets down to base problems that underlie. This is the way to make progress, IMO. Have you read Thomas Piketty's "Capitol in the Twenty...
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    You're going to need a new wardrobe for your new svelte self!
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    Isn't that the problem? It is costing too much!!! I'd love to see your costs go down, but even more I'd love to see mine go down! Sadly, I just see a bunch of cost shifting in the proposed plan. No reduction, net. Do you think medical care will get less expensive if we do away with...
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    My impression is that the care in Mexico is accessible and quite good, with lots of well trained M.D.s It seems you made a good decision to go there for your surgery. I couldn't comment on whether having the surgery was a good decision. That's a personal decision. I suppose you'll know the...
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    I see you did not follow my advice. Nevermind, I really was not expecting you to. Did you write something about people going to mexico for dental care? I suppose that would preclude any one, "ever" going to canada for medical care pre Obama care. Right? I wish you'd follow my advice. It was...
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    even though this is the Politics forum I prefer to leave politics out of a discussion of U.S. healthcare. I think more can be accomplished that way.
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    It seems opinions differ. Surprise surprise. I say select carefully the ones you accept as knowledgeable. From the Denver Post: Debunking Canadian health care myths By Special to The Denver Post June 4, 2009 at 1:41 pm As a Canadian living in the United States for the past 17 years, I am...
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    This is what is very commonly thought. And it is true! But it is only true if one considers "treat and street," which is how the physicians refer to this level of care, a satisfactory basic level of care. Obviously I don't consider treat and street satisfactory, and the majority of Americans...
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    I think the question of whether physicians would leave the U.S. if we adopted say single payer, or any other reasonable possibility, has now been answered,. They wouldn't. We can lay that concern to rest. As to "Why is it that there aren't people paying money to come see Canada's doctors when...
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    My ideas are not more nobel than yours or the are just alternative whys of looking at thing and alternative ideas. I don't know exactly what a "liberal" way of looking at healthcare is. I'm a libertarian, but not a neo-libertarian, or an alt right libertarian, or an anarcho libertarian. So what...
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    You may have made assumption that won't hold up on closer examination. For example: "better physicians in the U.S." I doubt you'll find anything other than anecdote, or highly questionable criteria, to back that up. You seemed to imply that there is not rationing or waiting in the U.S., I doubt...
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    Single Payer is they will give us in end

    It all sounds so simple doesn't it. The sick and poor (47%) in one basket, and the well in another for the insurance companies to feed on, or the emergency rooms to treat. What a wonderful thing!:D My suggestion: Do some more reading and thinking, and get back to us.
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    You may be getting carried away a bit. 1. I am not a Democrat ; 2. It's not my government, it's our government ; 3. People die everyday in the U.S. that wouldn't have died until much later had they access to routine medical care. In the States that did not expand medicaid, there are those who...
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    Single Payer is they will give us in end

    You're up on a Sat morning just like me, and you responded before I could correct my post. I agree, that there are some diseases, certain kinds of cancer, certain kinds of eye disease, etc. where you might travel to another country for treatment because there is a world renowned treatment...
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    I have spent some time in canada. (Love the country and canadians). Ill be in quebec again this summer. What i hear from my friends is that Canadians living near the border sometimes go to US clinics near the border and pay cash for some tests or procedures if they are on a waiting list in...
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    Single Payer is they will give us in end

    Oh I get it! You think a 'free market' in health care would spontaneously break out like a cheer at a football game. And all the sick people would have great health care, and all the well people would get by without it and everybody will be happy, and nobody will go bankrupt or die from lack of...
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    March 9 2017: Obamas brother releases Birth Certificate.......Kenyan Born.

    You realize of course that Sheriff Arpiao is not the only one who says so! That surely gives his statement great weight, don't you think? :rolleyes:
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