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    strike on iraq

    According to Stratfor (a kind of private CIA organization) the Chinese embassy was bombed for a reason. It was not a mistake. They were passing on information and intelligence on to Milosovic's men. For what reason I can not fathom. The US had to take it out because it was their base of...
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    Make Love Not War

    Maybe I'm way off but reading the above (and assuming that the US did say that to Saddam) I do not get "if you attack and take over Kuwait we will just sit on our hands and not have an opinion". I mean, "disagreement" is rather different than "invade and occupy", at least last time I looked...
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    Make Love Not War

    No offense taken. Do you really think that the people of Iraq would object to being freed from a sadistic monster because of suspect motivations? C'mon! I know Bush is no saint. No one is Washington is. However, by removing Saddam from power and creating a democracy (basically pulling an...
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    Make Love Not War

    What about the UN imposed sanctions? What about the UN resolutions which were broken by Saddam? What about the suffering of the innocent Iraqi people? Do you think we should do nothing about them also?
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    Make Love Not War

    ok I don't know how much clearer to make this: I don't want to hear about all the reasons (10,11 or 1 million) why we shouldn't attack Iraq. I want to hear about how those who are against the attack, propose the world deal with Saddam and his drive for WMD. Christ! That's all I am asking.
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    Make Love Not War

    ok getting back on track... I agree that the US has done a lot of good in this world but that it has also unzipped its proverbial pants and whizzed on a lot of countries. I give you that. But at some point you have to realize that talking about the 'why' (whatever it may be) of the...
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    strike on iraq

    http://www.stratfor.com/fib/topStory_view.php?ID=206446
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    Make Love Not War

    This is the first time that I've heard about such an alleged conversation between Saddam and the US. :confused: I really don't know what to say to such an allegation. Do you have any proof? any evidence whatsoever? how about any circumstancial evidence? First of all why would a monster...
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    Proof That Specialists Are Crooks

    I don't understand why you guys complain about specialists. We need them. I went down to the local fruit market to get some apples and it was total mayhem. The sellers were juggling the fruit and paying no attention to the buyers. The buyers were slapping each other in the face and going...
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    Make Love Not War

    resinate, ok so you don't think that Saddam is a danger and we can just continue to contain him as we have before. I think I understand where you're coming from. I assume that by contain you mean keep the no fly zones, the sanctions, etc. You realize that this means continued suffering for...
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    Make Love Not War

    Madison, look I don't want to get on a tangent about lying politicians, etc. If what you are implying is that Saddam is not a threat and therefore we should just leave him alone. Then just say that. I am truly interested to know what our (world) options are with regards to Saddam. I want...
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    Make Love Not War

    I wanted to start a thread to discuss alternatives to a war with Iraq. We all have discussed the possible war with Iraq at great length on another thread. I don't want to do that here. What I want to do is hear from those that are against a possible war with Iraq. I want to know what they...
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    The start of WWIII? IRAN!

    I'm not surprise at all that they found evidence of Al-Qaeda in Iran. I've heard from people in there that there are some Taliban big wigs in Iran. You have to understand that Iran is not like a normal country where the power flows from the top (federal government). It is rather run much like...
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    strike on iraq

    I almost fell off my chair when I read this. I hope that others don't miss this post by TF2000. It is a truly remarkable attestation to his intelligence, and allegiance.
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    strike on iraq

    So you believe that the world should lift the sanctions and then leave Saddam alone? But just a while back you were saying that inspectors should go in? and before that you said that you agree that Saddam should be removed and that he is a bad guy? which is it? And by the way your...
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    strike on iraq

    TF2000, ok we now know that you can cut and paste. now could you please tell us what your solution to this whole mess is? to sit back and only criticise and complain is easy and a cop out. If you have something to add of value go ahead. We are listening to you. That goes for everyone! :)
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    strike on iraq

    TF2000, You are not answering my questions.
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    strike on iraq

    TF2000, if you want I will post the 'unconditional' terms of Iraq. They were published by a UK newspaper (the letter that Iraq sent the Arab League -- which then was forwarded to the UN). I mean no disrespect TF2000 but you are not well informed about this important detail. It is NOT...
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    strike on iraq

    TF2000, Thank you for your concise response. May I pose a question regarding the inspectors? When Iraq called Annan and informed him that inspectors would be welcome and 'unconditional' the whole world breathed a sigh of relief. Then we learned that he had imposed conditions. Among them...
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    strike on iraq

    TF2000, I would like to know what you (and others who are against a war with Iraq to remove Saddam) suggest the world do with Saddam? a] leave him and the sanctions as they are b] remove the sanctions and leave him there c] put in inspectors from UN d] other Please let us know...
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