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>What do you think? That you are a certifiable loony. JB

I have no problem expecting...no, DEMANDING that the state tighten it's belt and get back on it's financial feet. It costs me as a taxpayer and in many other ways, but it must be done. I'm amazed at how you fail to see the importance of fiscal responsiblity and shared pain, but then as you...

BTW Mav, Still no anwer from you regarding the frozen and now thawing fertilized human eggs... Tick..tick...tick... JB

Wags, what's so obvious about it? I've got a college aged young'n here in the Bay Area and I'm asking the same question...what's the problem exactly? Cuts must be made and the pain must be shared. JB

...{blushing}... JB

Thanks for the thread Acrary. Always enjoy your stuff. JB

It's freakin' sad. JB

My sister and brother in law own a bazillion apartments and low income housing here in CA and deal with all that Section 8 housing crap. They tell stories of section 8 tenents driving Porsches and such. As to the misuse of SSI, Sec 8, etc, you and I will likely agree almost without...

>Sure I maybe projecting me beliefs on >others but aren't you projecting your >beliefs on me? LOL. Once again, read what I wrote Mav... I did not suggest you were projecting "beliefs" I suggested you were projecting "feelings". You said: >They will never rid themselves of the...

Mav: >My sister is bi-polar and can't hold a job, she has >not held a job for 15 years. She lives 100% off the >government and the government pays 100% for her >medical care and her doctor visits for her pregnancy. First, best wishes for your sister and thanks for sharing that...

Mav: >I want women to understand that abortion is not a quick >out, it's a decision they will have to live with for the rest >of their life and it's irreversible. They will never rid themselves >of the guilt. They will take it to the grave with them. Many woman find no guilt at all...

It's getting old for you because you continue to avoid his point. It would be nothing near the end of the story for you if it was suggested we prohibit you from going to the hospital for your case of food poisoning. You chose the wrong restaurant after all - "- isn't that free will? Of...

Mav, are you ever going to accept that your experiences are not necessarily *everyone's* experiences? No matter how hard you try to make it so, your experience *does not* invalidate others experience. I'm very happy for your niece/nephew that the situation your sister is in makes her...

Mav to ART regarding personal choice: >Wrong. Choice is a freedom we have when life is not >involved. Well, I'm not sure how many times it has to be said before you start listening...We *disagree* with you regarding the point the"life"(your term) part starts. So simply put and...

It is. JB

Like you Pabst, I'm totally amazed that this one hasn't gotten out of hand. As talkative as I am I usually leave this one alone because it is hard to come to any sort of mutual conclusion. As you stated, props are due to all involved for the tone of the debate. Best wishes. JB

Mav: >See, I can respect the fact that you admit >you don't know for sure where you stand, >just somewhere in the middle. The above is from an earlier post and I'm hoping that by now you see that I *do* know where I stand...there is nothing "unsure" about it. Any questions regarding my...

>Turok, how can you say for sure that life begins >somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd trimester? >How can you make that statement. First, the position clearly stated *for me*. Not "for you", or for "everyone", but just "for me". So as it is written it's EASY to make that statement...I...

My first guitar was a $100 nylon string Yamaha. My second (I still have it) was a limited edition Ovation with stereo pickups under the bridge and an ash top (never seen another one). I bought it new in '83 and it survives to this day with no neck adjustments. It has been through hell and...

No I'm not. As can I. No time. :-) JB