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Any actual evidence to back up any of those nutty-sounding accusations? Two previously downed aircraft in the area (both Ukrainian) were brought down by the <s>"rebels"</s> Kremlin surrogates who boasted about using vehicle-launched SAMs.

The plane crashed in the conflict area, which wants to separate from the rest of Ukraine. Go ahead, send in US or NATO forces and see what happens. Right or wrong, he'll call your bluff. Then what, General Patton?

Stop with the simple-minded us-versus-you nonsense. Nowhere have I indicated Putin is a good guy. But I do know what happens when an animal is cornered, and if you think Putin wouldn't put up a fierce fight in this situation, I gotta wonder just how much anti-commie hogwash you've been...

Given how long it took us to stage the invasion of Iraq, which had less than 1% the military power of Russia (and which is already right there in the conflict area), I strongly suggest you lay off whatever mind-altering substance you're imbibing.

That works also. Guy's talking like he has dementia.

You front Putin off on his own doorstep and see how wrong you are. The point of having nukes is deterrence, but if you think Putin is going to stand for being embarrassed in front of his own people in his own backyard, that's the most stupid game of chicken imaginable.

All the more reason for you to be embarrassed emulating genuine pussies like Karl Rove and Dick Cheney who think tough talk is a substitute for real toughness. Shame on you, Marine.

Here you go ... and it's free! http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?t=280889

Putin is a thug with nukes. Does that detail even remotely register with you? And what you're whining about would be the reverse of the Cuban missile crisis. We backed off the Soviets because they were on our doorstep. Now you're saying we should be aggressive on the Russians' doorstep...

I see the ET blame-Obama contingent has arrived. So in your mind, if Obama isn't ready to start a hot war with Russia on Russia's own doorstep (a reason for Russia to literally go nuclear if ever there was one), then he's a pussy. Wow. We should start calling you Captain McObvious.

Good points. I was just surprised more stop discipline wasn't drilled into the trainees, especially considering how worried LVD was over a net-loss when the test finished. Makes me think they were set up to fail to increase the series drama.

McCain has never seen a conflict he didn't want us to jump into combat boots first. Guy ain't right in the head.

You're just confusing the poor creationist, who has actually deluded himself into thinking he can understand scientific statements and arguments.

I get it ... you don't understand the Kelly criterion therefore you attack it, like a typical fool. Stop projecting your imbecility on me, troll666.

Interesting series. Unless I missed it, I don't think there was enough emphasis on cutting losses during the training. People just letting their shorts climb to the sky was baffling. Surprising that the fight promoter was the most outraged over the letting go of the losing lady. I think there...

I don't blame Putin every time something goes wrong. There's plenty I've posted about in this forum that never mentions Putin. Thanks for confirming your pathetic unfamiliarity with basic logic. Don't be late for your next Young Pioneers meeting. :D

It's called logic or critical thinking. No surprise that you're not familiar with it.

Filed flight plan, full transponder signal, etc. If your <s>"freedom fighters"</s> Kremlin surrogates were part of a legitimate organization, they could have figured that out themselves, idiot. Only a complete idiot thinks a bunch of Kremlin surrogates are a legitimate grassroots uprising...

MH17 was "invading their country"? Clearly the idiot here is you.

Not an accident. An accident is when some idiot leans against the control panel, hits the red button unintentionally and goes "Oops! I shouldna done that." This was a deliberate act. Some idiot shot down the aircraft he was aiming at, he just didn't know what he was aiming at (that's the...