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hehe good one:D

I haven't read it Ricter. Reminds me of all those years ago posting about abiogenesis and hydrothermal vents. It's most interesting to hear how the finer details are being filled out by Nick Lane. Thanks for the links OT.

Well there ya go :)

"Strikingly, the temperature of space is everywhere the same, just 2.7 degrees Celsius above absolute zero. How could different regions of the universe, separated by such enormous distances, all have the same temperature?" Addressed some time ago by Alan Guth and Andrei Linde with Inflation...

and there is evidence of chemical evolution before life formed.

Neither. It points to a universe from the inevitable outcome of natural evolving forces making the creator part unnecessary.

I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief. Immanuel Kant

I'm not having to. As there is no essential requirement for random chance. However, you've been unable to do little else.

I've no need to believe it. The fact that there is absence of belief makes it logically true, and that is fine with me!

What's absurd. All of it? "Jesus is God"... is that absurd? It's a statement paraded throughout the Christian faith and you're saying it's absurd? Are you saying the Jesus character would not be responsible for the deaths of countless numbers because he is not God - the one who is said, in what...

You're getting there. Not random chance at all. Random chance being the red herring you keep trotting out. Just the inevitable consequence of natural events. That would suffice. Reading posts you make is constantly like watching someone fall into a hole they've just dug for themselves.

and here's one of Jem

It means no such thing at all. It means they have an absence of belief. So in effect and in all reality, have no belief. For what reason exactly are you squirming around with this rather absurd idea that no belief is belief?

You've shown many times, and you have just done so again in spades ,that you don't have the intellect for rational discussion. And you're clearly very angry. Its perfectly reasonable to talk about a fictional character in the concept of how they are represented in a book that describes them...

"In the broadest sense, atheism is the absence of belief in the existence of deities." same source Can you explain logically/ meaningfully, how the absence of belief is belief . I guess not, basically!

Yes I agree. To discuss and understand absolute and relative morality they have to be defined first. I take it I'm right in saying you're a proponent for morality being absolute. You define absolute morality based in truth . This from your earlier post.... And things change, and what occurred...

What's in a name? That which is called a Bible by any other name would sound the same. Apocrypha; written by man, edited by man and then called the Bible by man, in the name of god. And Goldilocks never existed either, but no one in their right mind would say it's bogus argument to talk about...

If it is science, then there is no belief or need for faith in 'the multi verse or other universes, that life evolved from non life, that man made co2 is warming the earth'. No faith in them if it is science. The physics, the math, the facts, ie the science, points to their presence. It takes...

The bible is nothing but letters of the past! You're saying bible people who "need to find from religious writings/thinking/sayings/traditions their relevance in modern life".... ....are fundamentalists! It's noticeable how the religious like yourself do tend to talk in ever diminishing...

It's Biblical Apocrypha - ancient books found within ancient books later edited into a prescribed canon called the Bible. In Apocrypha, Jesus kills. Just as it is with the folk lore, stories, proverbs, fables, myths and riddles, these ancient bible books are said to be true when they fit a...