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If that were true, why aren't humans invisible. But It's the other way around. God is "made in the image of humans" in the imagination of humans, by humans. God is thereby made imaginary and in extreme reverence and superstition of their imaginary image, some humans dare not even write its...

.....some unsuccessfully some successfully

ah but can he bend spoons

Moral Jesus is a double sided coin whose currency demands that serving your fellow man is serving God, but to do otherwise will result in being "cut in sunder". Bible Jesus is less than moral, his ethics are more than questionable. This Messiah doesn't make morality the focus, to serve people...

and now we know how Thor was able to cross the Sky!

Then as this thread indicates, the Christian/Jewish values and virtues you refer to include a tribal hate for all things Muslim. This country was certainly not founded on those values.

If any thing it is Constitutional democracy , pluralism and the rule of law more than anything else that enabled Western societies to be prosperous and "happiest in the world". Without it so called Christian values are anything one bunch of Christians declare they are over another bunch of...

Islam is theocracy. Government by divine guidance. It hardly gets more religious than that. Fortunately "In God We Trust" was as far as America managed to go down that route.

Post a vid of Rev Anderson or some other of the numerous hate preachers in America into a Muslim country and someone with your view could just as easily say he represents mainstream Christianity. There is nasty within Islam and there is nasty within Christianity. There is also some nice in...

Hey you bunch of anti-constitutional un-American commie bastids .... don't you know that's what Freedom of Religion is for!!....... "Pastor Steven Anderson is one of America’s most notorious hate preachers. In one of his sermons, filmed at his Fundamentalist Independent Baptist church, Steven...

There's a time to hate. Ecclesiastes 3:8 :p

Comparing the standard of morality displayed by one politician against another, is moral relativism. That's what you should be hearing me say 'cause that's what I'm sayin' and it's why what the OP is sayin' is a heap of mooseshit.

If any of that were true, America would be a theocracy, nothing more than a version of the Middle East. The reason it isn't is because that codified morality you see in the Bible as unchanging, did actually get changed and for good reason. Because that unchanging codified moral Bible's...

Any form of morality can be defined as right behavior. If one type of morality doesn't jive with one's standards of morality, then in all reality you are applying "moral relativity". "Traditional morality" itself comes from the application of relativistic morality. If it didn't, then everyone...

Epistles of Paul written by someone suffering head trauma. That sounds reasonable.

It need only be that big bangs or pre-big bangs mean the laws of physics will turn out to be no other way than they are and zap, the 'fine tuning Designer' promptly disappears in a puff of logic.

I agree that Bible Christ is certainly an outright narcissist but don't see how you can say that could go a long way toward explaining the New Testament if narcissistic Christ were a genuine historic figure. Had Bible Christ existed in real life and was a self-absorbed narcissistic asshole...

We can go through it if you want but it'll make no difference to the topic. I've really no objections to Penrose's science killing the "Creator" again but In terms of your thread title, the laws of physics had already offed it.

..if unlike jem you took care to understand what Penrose's proposition is actually saying.

Current scientific theory explains how the singularity was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics. If that isn't "Killing the Creator" don't know what would be. CCC doesn't get around singularity. It proposes the universe consists of aeons, immeasurably long periods of time, each...