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    Freedom of Religion gets the axe

    ZZzz seems to consider not holding a belief is itself holding a belief. So to have a lack of something, is to actually have something. Those who do not hold belief in Wicca, by ZZzz logik, are a-Wicca-ists. They can't simply have no cause or reason to hold a belief in Wicca, they must also...
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    spam is profitable.

    isn't that what spam is for?
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    Let us now hear from the Creationists

    Uh JEM -- No. Why would I? Thomas Jefferson's letter to William Short August 4 1820 explaining his reasons for the letter and Syllabus to Dr Rush... My aim in that was, to justify the character of Jesus against the fictions of his pseudo-followers, which have exposed him to the inference...
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    Let us now hear from the Creationists

    Only 100 years? Then time is definitely on the side of evolution. It took 4 billion years for your Intelligent Designer to work out how to put together the ignorant sickly human animal, that is so incapable of getting its thinking functions working properly, it can't decide which is the right...
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    Jokes

    Very Good groaners howellpar :D "A dyslexic man walks into a bra. ....." I guess when his case came up, the Judge would have to hand out the mammary suspended sentence?
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    Under God

    The Christmas creche is nothing to do with invoking something by law. The City is not Congress. They did not invoke a law to insert a creche into a public pledge. Red herring. And as for the writers of this apology to what would be bad law from their own analysis, they make themselves look...
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    Under God

    This does not show how The Pledge is Consistent With the Establishment Clause. It just says it is. But this is not an argument about the constitutionality of patriotic expressions containing references to God. It is about the constitutionality of Congress passing law respecting an...
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    Under God

    But they aren’t. They may well be subject to the opinion of the reader, but not for their meaning. The words mean what they are commonly understood to mean. The Court knows what they mean and uses a common meaning of words.John loans Jim $1000 but Jim never needs to repay. Jim's opinion of the...
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    Under God

    Optional 777 / Art / zz /fefum / whatever What the hell ARE you talking about now? There are 10 words in the First Amendment of the Constitution which I say to you are incontrovertible. All I get in return is anything but a reason that bears any relationship to the actual wording and why...
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    Under God

    Nope, too late to change the context now. please try to refer to things actually said and not to those you have made up for yourself . You have already said and now stu thinks he is better qualified.... . Nothing to do with God=Religion. You know I think I am better qualified even though I...
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    Under God

    It remains unconstitutional according to the First Amendment of the Constitution. I take it that will be just a minor consideration to you Not by ALL those who actually practice religion it isn't. Many religious leaders consider it unconstitutional and damaging to religion for reasons already...
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    Under God

    The topic as it developed appears a simple enough argument . The Pledge is unconstitutional as it stands. It was not unconstitutional as it was written. If the words "under God" or "under God Almighty" or "under our Creator the Almighty God" or any other such similar phrase, however strong...
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    Under God

    Hey, no problem. I humbly accept your apology. Thanks for aknowledging your mistake.
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    Under God

    Problem is, bottom line, Feldman goes no further in answering the basis of the argument than you do. The Constitution is an unproven statement? Trying to call in Feldman, hasn't helped to establish your own personal alterations to common understandings and dictionary definitions of words...
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    Under God

    We are probably done. You have your opinion which you cannot articulate other than by saying the court agrees with you, irrespective of the fact whether or not the Court might be right or wrong, and irrespective of the fact that it was not essential to the argument anyway. But...
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    Under God

    Look to the writings in the scholastic piece from Feldman, published in Law Review for some clues to what the Framers were thinking prior to when the Establishment Clause was made law. What we have to understand the thinking of the Framers, and their intent can be found in their writings around...
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    Under God

    "We hold these truths to be self evident......" If you took the time to read the historical scholastic article by Feldman published in Law Review that I quoted and provided a link to, the concepts of freedom of thought as a right are clearly express in the writings of the Framers. Then I'll...
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    Under God

    Freedom of thought is a declared right of the Framers. To be perfectly effective in carrying out the letter of the law as written in those days, if not the spirit of law or the wishes of the framers, we would have to return to those days, the exact use of language of those days, the...
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    Under God

    So then, according to you if I understand you correctly (please advise if I have this wrong), we all only have opinion, including the Court. But once the Court hands down its opinion, everyone's opinion should be the same as the Court's. You seem to be saying the Courts are so learned, they...
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    Under God

    Are you suggesting I've failed to do something because I haven't previously been asked to do it? hmmm...have I succeed or failed to do something I've succeeded at not doing? Please look carefully Optional 777. Do you register visually and cognitively, any difference between these two...
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