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Apparently all you are suggesting is.... the bible says, that what exists proves God, because the bible says it does. Surely having decided what does exist, the onus was on proving what does exist. No onus there on proving what does not exist. That statement is regularly refuted just as...

I never said you did . Nowhere do I even mention you said God existed. As you have adequately demonstrated a pitiable inability toward offering any merit in anything you say throughout this thread, along with a propensity to delude yourself by reading things not written, your response...

So from the position of self-important puffed up childish ignorance, you mean to grant yourself a privalige to post obscenities at the same time accusing others of doing so, bible thump and preach as you have done, whilst also making a self-opiniated egotistical declaration on how no one is...

Ok let's say there are spirits in another dimension. Were they ever provable , detectable and/or knowable then neither the spirits or the dimension is or ever was supernatural. I don't believe that. I am saying were they detectable and knowable, they never were supernatural anyway. Hold up...

He wasn't ..?? I think you should re-consider your 1). I consider a religion which inclines someone to make the connection he did is a contemptuous religion. I clearly do not by saying that, state all religion is contemptuous. Although the ones I have come accross fit the description...

You are the one missing the point. You could actually confirm in practical ways other than word of mouth and what's written in far more compelling form than any fable , that children are starving. You could not prove in any way other than word of mouth or in practical ways that your...

Taking shoeshine's "our five dimensions of perception" being meant as the representation of sight, sound, touch, smell, taste, offered some sort of ground for him to argue superstition from. However, it appears he was actually suggesting if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck...

I didn't mention anything about believing everything you hear or see, so why divert your argument in that direction with me? I said your argument was insensible and contemptuous because it established a comparison between your imaginary conjecture and the suffering of starving children...

I expressed my opinion. What exactly is your beef?

I agree, only I would go further considering the contention was between starving children and some sort of imaginary conjecture, I would say volente_00 's response is insensible and contemptuous. I think religion is clearly inducing the inclination for him to defend his negligent...

I suggest both of your definitions explain the supernatural as eliminating itself. By the first definition you describe, it appears we would both agree leaves the supernatural eliminating itself, "things that are entirely in the realm of things outside our five dimensions of perception" ...

The supernatural eliminates itself.

Haroki, the Bible is full of violence threat and terror. Because it has nice bits in it, along with the Part Two Son of God New Testament public relations wake up re-vamp, does not diminish that fact. Bibles, Qurans, Religions are not essential or necessary ingrediants in the deeds actions or...

My question remains, why would you want to introduce anyone - using your own words - to " proper religion" with " its place in modern life", when that very same religion is full of violence and hatred? Moslems and Christians may well preach for peace, but behind those people are...

When you say proper religion has its place, do you mean peaceful religion has its place, or does one need to subject proper to misinterpretation in order to give it the meaning of another more suitable word? The Koran is in no way unclear to make misinterpretation necessary. It is...

You write the reference, then you say I have the reading comprehension problem. So jem the item between us in this thread now , ... .isn't evolution a fact ?

You are still projecting your own shortcomings onto me. The item between us here is. I repeat, evolution is a fact. Trying to go back over previous stuff you could not substantiate then, does not help your position in this thread now.

well done nonsense, so you're getting there, albeit ever sooo slowly.

good, then you seem to support the statement as correct. The Scientists or the Thests who thinks Cold Fusion is a fact, will find soon find out by the Science that it aint. The Scientists or the Thests who think evolution is a fact, will find soon find out by the Science that it is.The...