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How would you reach that conclusion without using your intellect, senses, and reason ? ..so why the need for you to use your our intellect, senses, and reason to try and make another's argument against religion wrong?

ZZzz, the confused child ...so very grown up as to play the flaming Troll. Extremely funny... ZZzz, the confused child demonstrates his "reasoning process" below: <img src=http://w3.ouhsc.edu/phar5442/Images/Images%20Mental%20Health/Tantrum.gif>

ZZzz, the clear minded who got his bottom spanked in another thread, works out his resentments here....an entirely different thread, entirely different topic. Nice job ZZzz! How very, very clear minded of you. ROTFLMAO...

ZZzzz, the clear minded telling everyone who doesn't agree with him that they are confused. Classic ZZzzism... Watching ZZzz throw his tantrums calling everyone who doesn't agree with his world view "confused." Too too too funny....

When I give my answer to your question, I am not avoiding it I am answering it. Is that simple enough for you? You maybe don't like the answers because they trample on the rather astonishingly simple contradiction which is supposed to be at the core of your faith as you describe it. You have...

No avoidance here TM , you just seem incapable of comprehending this point whilst you try to rationalize the contradiction in what you described as your religion, and what you say the jesus love is. My love for my family is unconditional unlike the jesus love you showed. To choose either my...

Well seeing on how you have asked... I feel myself fortunate that I can define the love I have for my wife and the love I have for my kids. They are not the same. There is no "choose", no choice involved - were I have to declare a love for my wife over my children or vice-versa. They are...

well thanks at least for clearing things up. You have expressed you religious faith as being something which is not just or reasonable, is contradictory and you expect to screw it up anyway. A bit like fading a trade.

unconscionable

So far you have said noting which adresses my post. Do you wish me to talk in parables or perhaps riddles might be more appropriate, like jesus , so YOU may be able to understand - sounding hateful is not the same thing as talking of love . So what sort of faith is it that professes a jesus...

Describing in nothing more than contradiction someone as loving but who detests people and intends to set familes against themselves is hardly anything close to being reasonable. To say you would put devotion to that as a concept or a reality infront of your children, is frankly quite scary.

You love your invisible friend and put It before your children?

On reading the New Testament, jesus is supoosed to have uttered this about love and family.. Matthew 10:34-36 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn `a man against his father, a daughter...

whoa stand down and at ease there solider. Mission (already) accomplished. Unfortunately our President fucked up your idea when he got rid if the sad-man-insane guy, who was the Hitler in that region, but never-no-mind. We now got Islam and those mooslims fighting the west in the name of...

...here endeth the lesson on the theists' plea for ignorance

Free speech cannot be Un-American. Personal belief publicly expressed is free speech and likewise freely open to critical speech against . That is what free speech is. Freedon to speak does not restrict the holding of the belief. The suggestion that it is against principles to speak freely...

UnAmerican would be to deny the the right and thereby the freedom of speech to impugn.

not to be picky but I said gunk not junk. Gunk as in a residue or accumulation. Dross or garbage which might block or restrict. Applies in my view to pretty much all mainstream religious rule books, simply because of the way their demands and expectations in the content matter are...