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    No, I'm calling you on this BS db. The only data I referred to that I'd provide was regarding the benefits of two parent male/female family child rearing, with the emphasis on the necessity of a mother figure. I don't have it. Sorry. Even if I did, it's not actual "data", as in...
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    Cubano, I simply can't understand how you could POSSIBLY not know the ways in which I believe this has an effect on you, me and all our future generations, given that I've just written PAGES about it. Amazing. To summarize: 1. Homosexuality has not been proven to be an inherent...
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    Still waiting db. Still freaking waiting dude. Will you EVER get off your high horse and actually respond to my request for you to SHOW, to DEMONSTRATE that gay behavior is an UNAVOIDABLE characteristic of a person? That even though it may SEEM to have been influenced by external...
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    Db, go @#%#% yourself bro. I didn't bring it up, it was in response to crap like what Gekko brought up, in the very next post after I specifically called the thread gay marriages. If you've got nothing better than flame bait to offer up, I suggest you re-read the first sentence of this...
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    db, you wanna argue? Fine, bring it on. I'm getting sick and tired of you pretending that your operating from some higher logical plane than me. Leave me out of it. Don't just assert the argument is flawed, show it. And show my why YOur version is any better. So I'm waiting, please...
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    Wonderful bungle rider. No doubt you didn't bother to read the contents of the thread. Despite the thread referring specifically to gay marriage, not homosexual activity per se, I find no reference to it in your post whatsoever. Strawman rules the roost yet again.
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    Yeah, I had a feeling this is what you'd put up. Look, it's a common liberal tactic to demand logical perfection from every position advanced and to then perceive a great victory when positions inevitably fail to live up to mythical perfection. The simple facts are, as anyone can verify...
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    No, I meant the two parents and the family dog. :) Of course I'm including children. So, can I have it now please db? Is this when I'm going to be wowed by whatever point it is that you've been building up to with your understandable, but nevertheless annoying, two word posts?
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    Important differences such as racial integration referring to constitutional rights and gay marriage being nothing of the sort. Marriage, my friend, has always been the union of man and woman. So much of the very society we all function in is grounded upon such a basic principle, and its...
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    Hi AAA. Hehe, it was a bit of a turn up for the books! :) If what you say is true about Canada that is simply preposterous. Outrageous. I'm shocked, dumbfounded. How can anyone keep a straight face and tell me gays haven't gone too far? Criminalizing criticism of homosexuality...
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    Well, it may have been. But there also major differences between racial integration and gay marriage. Important differences. As far as I'm aware racial integration was basically upholding blacks' constitutional rights. I don't think anyone's denying gays' theirs.
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    Clueless axeman, you remain absolutely clueless. If you haven't understood by now that my issue isn't with FREE people (just how free? well that's another thread entirely) having sex with themselves, others or dogs and cats, then you're beyond help. If you haven't understood that the issue...
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    Okay axe. You want to turn a blind eye, go ahead my friend. On your bike. Leave the issues to people who actually care about what shape society takes.
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    If you don't understand that the concept of marriage, since time immemorial, has meant the union of man and woman, then perhaps this whole debate is over your head. If gays want their own kind of special union, well, they can have one. Certainly nobody is stopping them from having one -- not...
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    The problem is, you are assuming this is 100% choice and nothing more than behavior. You have no evidence that shows this is 100% choice. I have at least provided some evidence that it is not choice based. Others have pointed out the "gay-ness" occurs in nature as well. Care to show me...
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    Cubes, 1st .. these are not "givens" you are assuming that gay parents will all behave the same as you have pointed above which is just not true...Every parent would be different just as is the case with heterosexuals...will they get picked on at school?? perhaps, but that is not what a...
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    to axeman, I don't hate the people, I hate the behavior. I see a difference between the two. As evidence, I offer the fact that I once shared a house with a gay guy for four months. In any case, you can't expect everyone to simply love everyone now, can you. It's the real world we live...
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    db, they had "data", oodles of it. None of which I found rationally compelling. That makes it -- the debates I had with the gays -- more than "just attitudes", it makes it a bona fide attempt to convince another rational agent of the truth of your proposition. Just accept that these debates I...
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    Cubano, if the ONLY issue was "is the kid going to be love" I wouldn't care. But it is certainly not the only issue.
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    Okay, if all you want is word games. What difference does it make if I say I've spent hours debating with homosexuals? (as opposed to "faggots"). You're incorrect if you think this shows "nothing but attitudes". Is that all debates are to you? I doubt you believe this. The point is that...
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