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  1. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    I don't know about all Christians. It is clear in my mind that Jesus is a liberal. You can find out more about Jesus from this website: http://www.jesusisaliberal.org/ So liberals and Christians are certainly not mutually exclusive. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of...
  2. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    These are not mutually exclusive. Strict separation of Church and state is stated in the Constitution and is supported by Liberals and Christians alike. And the reason "Some Christians find prayer and religious displays in public (tax payer supported places) OK" (but not ALL) is because people...
  3. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    If it makes you feel better, I'd be glad to say that an average professor has an IQ of 50. Hapaboy's IQ is higher than that of a professor.
  4. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    You cannot "correct" others' opinions. To change the perception that you're a liberal, you have to "correct" your own actions. Start posting some real materials.
  5. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    You posted 4 posts so far in this thread, and have not offered a single opinion on the issues discussed. So you fit the definition of a liberal by the thread starter to a T. You truly are a liberal.
  6. J

    Trapped in a Hall of Mirrors?

    It's a precautionary measure. You're never sure that you've got everyone of them. Even if it is indeed to buy political capital, I'd give them that. I think they're so scr***d at this point, the little capital they get from this is not going to make much difference.
  7. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    That's clearly NOT "ad hominem." It's just poking fun at people. And intellect has nothing to do with being a professor. I've seen some very dim professors.
  8. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    But whether you're a liberal or not is a matter of opinion. It cannot be "ad hominem" if someone calls you a liberal and he truly believes it.
  9. J

    Trapped in a Hall of Mirrors?

    I'd be worried if the government didn't raise the terror alert when these recent arrests were made in Britain. The possibility that the alert could politically benefit the party in power is something that we just have to live with. Ultimately, people have to judge collectively what is...
  10. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    1. I didn't call you a liberal. He did. 2. Why calling you a "liberal" is "ad hominem?":D
  11. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    That's the other side of the coin. Basically, if he had brought pork home, then his being liberal would be fine because he would be our liberal. But between "their" liberal and "their" conservative, the choice was "their" conservative.
  12. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    This may be one of those misconceptions that rarely get discussed. The energy cost of a house is more a function of the number of windows and doors than anything else. The insulating materials used nowadays for walls and ceilings are really good. So if you also do a good job on insulating the...
  13. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    Does that mean that I have your vote? And you twisted that pretzel pretty good, too.
  14. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    I see how my post is misunderstood. Should've chosen my words more carefully. What I mean't was, in TN land is dirt cheap so anybody can build a big house with a fraction of the money you NYers have. 10,000 sq ft is really nothing. True it is one of the poorer states so there are a lot...
  15. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    Maybe we should do an audit and see whether he indeed lives a "carbon-neutral lifestyle." But so far I haven't seen any evidence that he doesn't. A big house means nothing. And if he believes that he can just persaude people to "voluntarily" switch to green energy, then he is being too naive...
  16. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    Do you live in NYC? Here in TN, we have very big houses. 10,000 sq ft is nothing. Also if you know how to insulate your house, it can take less to heat/cool it than a typical apartment.
  17. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    The knock on Gore in TN was that he didn't bring home any pork as a senator. And no pork either for 8 years as VP. So basically he lost TN because he was too much of a good boy (other people's good boy). Byrd would certainly win W. Virginia if he ran for President. Based on that, do you...
  18. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    Do you live in Tennessee? If not, then how do you know what Tennesseans think?
  19. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    He is a politician. A politician never asks people to "voluntarily" do something. A politician pushes for an agenda, which when most people agree will be acted upon. But before that agenda is accepted, it's perfectly ok for the politician to NOT practice that agenda. This is not hypocracy. This...
  20. J

    What We Can Learn From Liberals

    I'm surprised that a real ET'er like you would buy this crap. A good trader never "practice what you preach," and instead react to what the market gives you. I know that burning oil is bad for the environment. But before everyone switches over to nuclear power, it's perfectly ok for me to...
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