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  1. J

    The Coronavirus Is Here Forever

    Hey Ken... Lets put that IQ to work. And consider the trade... consider the magnitude of the risk and the outcomes. Facts to consider: Data: 95% of people in ICU had co morbidity (per CDC study posted this week...here) Age is a massive factor in ICU and death per every study but it was not...
  2. J

    Why are some people still refusing to get Covid vaccine?

    Here is the analysis. Data shows 95% of 5,000,000 U.S. people in ICU had pre existing conditions / co morbidity. Then add in age as big factor. Then know the stats also say 96 percent in ICU had vitamin D deficiency per CDC study shared here. Other studies show sufficient D may prevent...
  3. J

    Latest Vaccine News

    This is the final word... There is T Cell immunity you liar and there may be cross reactivity for other corona viruses. Its not just antibody immunity you liar. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z ... Thus, SARS-CoV-2 N-specific T cells are part of the T cell repertoire of...
  4. J

    Latest Vaccine News

    That looks like absolute complete bullshit, pulled out of your ass. Please show us a study where a legit scientists state only antibody immunity prevents you from spreading Covid. 2. Last I read... there was still no proof that asymptomatic people spread. I could see that changing for...
  5. J

    Latest Vaccine News

    your last sentence is a purposeful misrepresentation of natural immunity.. we may have other types of immunity as well. Natural immunity for some or many could last for years as it does with other types of viruses. Many people may never have even "bothered" to create detectable antibodies...
  6. J

    Latest Vaccine News

    Your article is comprised of mostly speculation... albeit by experts. Hopefully they are correct... but real time data will be important going forward. Without a lot of data its going to difficult to determine if healthy immune systems are improved by the jab. Many of the low risk fight of...
  7. J

    Latest Vaccine News

    its should be noted that you pulled that shit out your ass and lied again. no way anyone knows how many kids have caught delta already .. and the vast majority of kids are unvaccinated.
  8. J

    What If The Best Approach To Covid Was, "No Jabs For Anybody"?

    you are living a promise that is fading quickly right now and very hard to quantify... overall. Where will we be in six months... absent boosters.? The antibodies are fading and efficacy for the high risk are getting worse by the week or month. Much of the "good" result could be due to the...
  9. J

    What If The Best Approach To Covid Was, "No Jabs For Anybody"?

    From an individual standpoint the high risk did deserve to get protected by the vaccine. But... the risks to society as whole? many have said that when you give a vaccine with only temporary immunity during a pandemic you could have a disaster. Some experts have told us that risk is...
  10. J

    What If The Best Approach To Covid Was, "No Jabs For Anybody"?

    These arguments do not have to be so binary... "Its not fuck everyone else..." Its protect the high risk and let the low risk live... DePrado who is acknowledged as one of the best financial modelers in the world... modeled this over a year ago. (see below for this paper) with the...
  11. J

    Neanderthals vs. "Science"

    well that was a big step for you... but I see you just made a bunch of shit up to obfuscate the importance. a. You don't need to have detected antibodies to be immune... in fact the easier the infection was for you to fight... the less likely the tests will detect antibodies. (per the...
  12. J

    Neanderthals vs. "Science"

    Please Tell us when you first posted that there were 3x as many infections as proven cases. With a link.
  13. J

    Neanderthals vs. "Science"

    Yeah your links there are a bit tricky... and depends on what you consider to be risks and how you weigh them... ... but we now know its much safer to rely on natural immunity if you already had covid... And the studies show many more us had Covid than we knew. Could be 2 to 5 times more...
  14. J

    Taliban in Kabul as President Flees

    What is sad is this cycle we are in...first the republicans become hated by the media so America holds their nose and votes democrat...then the democrats take over and by the time they are done we are ready to have a 9/11...isis take over of parts of the middle east or the sacking of Kabul...
  15. J

    The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

    ---- Study: One-third of Americans were infected with COVID by -- December 2020 Study: One-third of Americans were infected with COVID by December 2020 Michael Gartland, New York Daily News 8 hrs ago The study, which was conducted by researchers at Columbia University’s Mailman School...
  16. J

    The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

    I should have gone with dbag as I left out the e
  17. J

    The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

    what a douchbag you are... I wrote something different and then provided the link... I was going to show us all how many times GWB lied ass off about natural immunity... for instance you caught him making shit up here...
  18. J

    The Herd, Vaccine and Natural Immunity Thread....

    Remember all the time gwb-lying ... lied and said natural immunity only lasts for 3 months. Well vaccine immunity has a 13 fold bigger risk for breakthrough and infection and 6-7 fold bigger risk for severe Covid in this study...
  19. J

    Latest Vaccine News

    And now we see its quite possible these kids are getting infections from their vaccinated parents. Its time to cease acting like vaccines make someone morally superior. They data shows vaccine efficacy fades within a few months.
  20. J

    Latest Vaccine News

    a. do you have actual stats? what percentage are low risk b. are you blaming kids for catching the virus even though the vaccine does not necessarily protect them for catching it? c, its quite possible some of these kids going to the hospital got Delta from their vaccinated parents or friends.
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