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Un-debateable perhaps but not indisputable. 'That Which Can Be Asserted Without Evidence Can Be Dismissed Without Evidence' as Hitchens said. God existence un-debateable maybe, but definitely questionable.

This isn't about not letting anyone believe and have faith in what they choose to. It's about questioning it. That's all. The important thing is to never stop questioning. Any religion that teaches not to question has something to hide. There is no way of knowing if something might be right or...

It's a good point and another simple fact that the scientific practices of observation and experiment and development of falsifiable hypotheses along with a relentless questioning of established views has shown to be uniquely powerful in revealing the way in which the universe actually works...

..and his... " “It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going.” ..is not what he said when he did actually say it? Dodge the issue. No surprise.

gonna run out of smilies at this rate big bang is math, not me.:confused:

does really 'cause it's not me, it's math :p

Doesn't mean you're not wrong. :)

I know what your point is and I'm pointing out, as are others, that you are wrong. I insist on stating big bang is rooted in math because it is. That's just a fact. Neither math nor big bang is a guess. The big bang theory is superior to 'all others' for very good reason. Belief plays no part...

LOL. From nothing to full blown universe because ... invisible imaginary designer. You choose the latter. I understand why you feel silly debating it. My guess is you wouldn't love to read it at all. Otherwise you already would've.

It was just a simple question. Why the hostility. Doesn't matter anyway. Science is so successful because it is a method based on doubt not on faith. Science is proof without conclusion, religious faith is conclusion without proof. Of course there's nothing wrong with those who live out their...

Except I asked, you didn't give an answer. that's a dodge, not an answer if not this (science) or that (God myth) then what might be the other more myth?

You keep dancing round this. In order to get an explanation that can tell you "the origin of the original mass and energy of the universe", will it be a scientific theory or law to explain how the universe actually works, or will you use myth. Myth or Math ? An answer that begs more...

that's not what big bang theory says but nevertheless, you are saying between myth and math you would go myth. Right?

No God then. :p

It's a case of which is it more reasonable and sensible to believe. Myth or Math.

I disagree. Within the disciplines of theoretical physics and cosmology for example, some human minds have been able to do exactly that. My opinion is it isn't reasonable to say a working scientific theory such as big bang based upon the scientific method and conforming to the laws of physics...

If there were only two states of mind to be had mistaking faith as knowledge would be something that couldn't be rectified. It's evident that's what you are doing. But of course there aren't just two states of mind. A passive state of mind for instance, can reasonably maintain that due to a...

In your previous post you decided for me. You said I do have to make up my mind and then decided for me that in effect, I have pretty much decided. Right after you decided that for me, you're saying no one decides for me. Perhaps this is something lost by some if not all those who hold...

One of the many unattractive facets of religious belief is the way God bods do so often like to decide for themselves the minds of others.

or maybe even a bing & bob banger